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[-] whatsarefoogee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

If you want shit with removable batteries, cool, go out and make your demands heard.

They have. That's why the regulators are making these laws.

But why should your demands be pushed onto everyone else as "pro-consumer"

It's pro consumer because it benefits consumers. As of right now, most portable electronics have a built in expiration date. Most people lack the skills to replace a built-in battery and official stores rarely do replacements, so it's down to a 3rd party shop which is difficult for less knowledgeable consumer to find.

It's the same reason why we have any regulations against anti-consumer practices. It's because these practices often rely on deceptive practices and consumers ignorance. In this case, the consumers are not informed that the device they are buying is built to expire after a few years.

I don't see any argument you could make about usb-c or removable batteries hindering your usage of the device.

Most countries mandate that products come with a warranty. I haven't heard anyone saying "what if I want to buy a product without a warranty?" Because why would you?

[-] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago

They have. That’s why the regulators are making these laws.

You're aware that not every personal preference has to be enforced by law, correct? You can express your preferences without calling for any form of government action whatsoever.

It’s pro consumer because it benefits consumers

No, it benefits some consumers. I, for one, very much would not benefit from this. Batteries replaceable to the standard the EU wants absolutely have downsides, primarily concerning space, meaning either larger devices, or smaller batteries, and in some cases, likely both. For example, if you open up a modern iPhone, you'll find that the battery takes up every nook and cranny it could be fit into. And the phones still maintain a slim design. That shit is basically outright impossible to make under this standard of idiot-serviceability. And because I'm perfectly fine with having to use big scary tools like a soldering iron and heat gun, I have exactly zero problems with buying devices that would require them for service, especially so considering the benefits.

Most people lack the skills to replace a built-in battery and official stores rarely do replacements, so it’s down to a 3rd party shop which is difficult for less knowledgeable consumer to find.

Which doesn't fucking impact me at all. I'm not a less knowledgeable consumer. So why should I be stuck playing by rules for their benefit?

I don’t see any argument you could make about usb-c or removable batteries hindering your usage of the device

USB c isn't some pinnacle of design. You seriously find it unthinkable that any cable could ever be superior in any way? And I already covered downsides to the idiot-servicable batteries.

Most countries mandate that products come with a warranty. I haven’t heard anyone saying “what if I want to buy a product without a warranty?” Because why would you?

More examples of regulations isn't an argument for further regulations because law is not inherently self justifying.

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Are you being paid to take every single bad take possible or what?

[-] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago

Lol says the big government simp

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Try not talking like this, you'll have more meaningful interactions in your everyday life which aren't immediately hostile to everyone actually engaging with you, resulting in mutually beneficial discussions rather than the arguments you're clearly constantly looking for.

[-] damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Lol says apple simp. See how that's not actually a counter argument see how you actually have to explain your points in order for them to be valid and see how you failed to do so because every single point you come up with lacks evidence.

You have said that it is impossible to make efficient batteries that a user replaceable, but you have failed to demonstrate why this is the case. Phones have historically had use of replaceable batteries for years it's been fine. Manufacturers just realized they could force people to buy new phones more easily if they didn't make the batteries replaceable, it's got nothing to do with efficiency, and everything to do with anti-consumer capitalism.

[-] MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago

You have said that it is impossible to make efficient batteries that a user replaceable, but you have failed to demonstrate why this is the case

Your inability to read doesn't qualify as a lack of argument on my part. Sorry dumbass.

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