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To be honest, I was shocked when he said that. Lula, and the Worker's Party as a whole, usually shy away from name-dropping Communism, let alone openly praising it.
Lula is usually worried with having support from the right-leaning Congress, and honestly, he needs that support to be allowed to do anything as president, and openly saying what he said is sure to get him a lot of criticism.
Still, it was a nice surprise to hear that.
When bolsonaro stans attacked the airport, Lula denounced the “Stalinists” alongside the reactionaries but then paused and corrected himself, saying “Wait, no. Not the stalinists” then continued denouncing the reactionaries lol
Name-dropping communism astonishes you? Would Pol Pot astonish you?
Yeah, cause I thought he was dead. He's a pretty astonishing guy in many other ways as well.
You clearly don't know Brazilian politics, but I already explained how unusual that is for a leftist politician like Lula who tries to appear moderate to appease the right. He straight up said he was very happy because for the first time ever, the supreme court will have a communist minister (appointed by him). Dino being a communist was a fact that only the opposition was using, to attack him and his appointment for the supreme court.
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Not gonna lie, I don't remember that speech, but that was super based too!
My only point is that many people have name-dropped communism in history, and many of these people were counterrevolutionaries, reactionaries, utopians, liberals, social-democrats etc.
I don’t care that Lula thinks a communist is cool. I care whether Lula is communist, whether Lula belongs to a revolutionary communist party, whether the party is firmly linked with the masses and is actively fighting for the concerns of the masses — I could keep going but these things are not true. But yes it is true that Lula praised a communist. So did Pol Pot.
this is funny because Pol Pot's group assumed control of the country for two years just calling themselves "The Organization", before 'revealing' themselves as the CPK. it probably was a bit shocking and astonishing considering the lack of socialism and cooperation with other socialists in the area
He also denounced communism and said western capitalism was the correct path to follow. It’s almost as if vaguely liking someone for one thing doesn’t mean you like everyone who shared the same qualities. I know it can be difficult for some people to grasp