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[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago

This is just elevated whataboutism

True. Actual whataboutism is only from the Whatabout region of France

[-] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Whatabout region of France

It's actually from Northern Ireland! Everybody thinks the phrase came from the US during the cold war but it didn't.

According to lexicographer Ben Zimmer,[13] the term originated in Northern Ireland in the 1970s. Zimmer cites a 1974 letter by history teacher Sean O'Conaill which was published in The Irish Times where he complained about "the Whatabouts", people who defended the IRA by pointing out supposed wrongdoings of their enemy:

Their enemy in this case is the Black and Tans and the British Army and their supposed wrongdoings are the reprisal killings they committed against Irish civilians.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago

fidel-salute thanks, I'll ammend my jokes accordingly. Also nice to know that it was always a thought terminating cliche to defend state approved violence over the violence of the oppressed

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