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[-] Mango@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

Psychologists branding everyone with a disorder. You can spend a whole lifetime trying to understand yourself and you won't. 4 years of schooling and a book full of labels doesn't give you any extra magical understanding of everyone else.

[-] godzillabacter@lemmy.world 88 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You know I felt this way for years. I felt that way through psychopharmacology in pharmacy school, and I felt that way during our psychiatry and behavior lectures in medical school. I felt like psychiatry was minimizing behavior to these boxes was far too reductionist. Then I spent a month in an inpatient psychiatry facility as a third year medical student.

While I completely agree that each individual is unique and people are more than their diagnosis, you'd be absolutely shocked by just how similar patients' overall stories, maladaptive coping mechanisms, and behaviors are within the same psychiatric illness. I can spot mania from a doorway, and it takes less than five minutes to have a high suspicion for borderline personality disorder. These classifications aren't some arbitrary grouping of symptoms: they're an attempt to create standard criteria for a relatively well preserved set of phenotypic behaviors. The hard part is understanding pathology vs culturally appropriate behavior in cultures you don't belong, and differentiating within illness spectra (Bipolar I vs II; schizophrenia vs bipolar disorder with psychotic features vs schizoaffective)

[-] rowrowrowyourboat@sh.itjust.works 21 points 11 months ago

4 years where? To become a real psychologist (not a therapist) in most places you need a PhD or a PsyD. In total, you probably do at least 8 years of schooling.

Not to mention that that "book full of labels" is constantly reviewed and was made based on consensus from psychiatrists, which are medical doctors with a lot more than 4 years of schooling.

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Hey it's ok to be wrong on this one.

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I feel that, I feel like diagnoses is one of the least important parts of psychologists' work. And if they assign medication based solely on that limited scope, then there is clearly a problem.

EDIT: To clarify, I think medication should be used to treat specific symptoms when there are no contraindications, I think it is wrong to assign medication based on a broad categorization.

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