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Communism entails the collective ownership and administration of all means of production and the absence of social classes, while socialism advocates for worker control over means of production within a democratic society, allowing for some individual ownership and social stratification.
In addition, there are different levels of socialism. "Some" individual ownership turns people off. "The State owns the house I worked so hard to pay off?" You can have full private ownership of your things AND have single-payer health care, top-tier public education, reining in predatory banks, etc. We want to be Norway, not Venezuela.
Your government is directly responsible for Venezuela's instability. Your government's entire foreign policy is destabilizing different parts of the world to float the Dollar as the main currency and you the citizens benefit the most from it, this is why I cringe inwardly when Americans complain of Capitalism's adverse effects, if you enjoyed it while it was good, you must enjoy it while it gets bad.
As a venezuelan, no. What happened and still happens here was the sole responsibility of the socialist party's government and the ultimate reason why I don't trust leftists as they don't own up their failures and just disregard them as "not true socialism"
The government of Venezuela isn't blameless but to think that American sanctions didn't affect the Venezuelan economy are the words of a true partisan. Your kind set up piano wire and beheaded civilians on motor bikes in Venezuela and I find that despicable.
My kind? Thanks for the uncalled xenophobic racism.
Venezuela has been going to shit since the 2000 with Chavez.
Sanctions were stablished from 2015 and only to 7 individuals from the venezuelan government.
Keep your lies up. Maybe you will start believing them.
Lol racism card when I don't even know your ethnicity? I was talking about you being a rich asshole.
You literally jumped to call names on me and accused me of murdering people when you don't even know me. You call me rich as if that means anything, and to top it You justify yourself with ignorance. You don't knowing my ethnicity is the least of the issues here and frankly not knowing things about me is not stopping you from engaging with me in an uncivilized manner.
I find you despicable and a true rich asshole just given your behavior
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
Surely enough you are a misogynistic as well.
๐๐๐ I'll give you this you made me laugh. But in all seriousness, stop supporting the killing Venezuelans based on your political beliefs so you can have a lower tax rate. Please. It's just greed and that's a sin.
Are you talking about the leftist venezuelan government murdering civilians openly? If right that are the ones you insanely advocate for.
Not sure where you got that information but the right wing in Venezuela have been begging the USA to overthrow the democratically elected government in Venezuela for a couple decades now. They can't win the elections fair and square so they assassinate politicians and kill Venezuelans during riots. It's all documented on sites like Venezuelanalysis and CommonDreams. There's been a massive propaganda campaign against Venezuela since the late 1990's to try to get Venezuelans to give their resources to US corporations and their rich greedy Venezuelan opposition leaders (often who refuse to participate in elections the EU and other international bodies have called free and fair.)
Lol shows much of what you know but calling an imaginary right wing party in Venezuela even when all of them are open socialists.
The only thing people are begging for is for the socialist venezuelan government to stop murdering civilians left and right.
Oh but I'm sure you have a justification for that too.
I can't tell if you're being disingeneous or not so I'll probably stop engaging but I think Henrique Capriles, Guaido, the US State Department, and that crazy lady who wants the US to assassinate Maduro would disagree with your statement there is no right wing opposition in the country. Which BTW can and do participate in elections. They just pout and incite violence when they don't win.
Repeating something doesn't make it true.
I encourage you to read up on what's happening on Venezuela from multiple news sources. Try Venezuelanalysis.
How about you try living there. As I do and the rest of my family?
The things is the path to one of the other begins the same, of course, paved with good intentions
As opposed to being paved with bad intentions up front?
Honesty or lie. Mmm a hard bargain
I agree with what you've said. That's how I saw it too. Communism is the last stage, while Socialism is a transition period, as a Communist friend once told me. P.S. WTF am I getting downvoted for asking a question?
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