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[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago

2 people take the same dose of heroin, they repeat the experience 5 times each on the same time line. Lets say they both has the same surgery. One person stops easily, experiencing mild withdrawal that feels like a flu and goes on with their life without ever thinking about it again. The other feels a powerful compulsion to take more, they maintain their usage say initially through extending a medical script and later the black market.

What was different between the two? Maybe you think person 2 had terrible moral character but if they had never been given heroin this would never have manifested. We call that pathological difference a disease and try and treat it. What would you call it?

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca -3 points 10 months ago
[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

So you say the difference is some moral deficiency? ok well why don't we try and treat that. After all we need pain killers in medicine and we want to make them as safe as possible.

Let's call junkeyism a disease and see how we can stop it happening. Maybe by understanding if some people respond better or worse to different kinds of drugs, maybe we could identify a test we could do to work out what would be safe for someone?

Like what do you think it means when a doctor calls something a disease? People can make bad decisions and still get diseases. If inject yourself with the blood of everyone you meet you'll eventually get a few, they don't stop being a disease just because you gave it to yourself (and also we might ask why someone felt compelled to do something so foolish and could we have helped them).

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca -3 points 10 months ago

Junkeyism ALSO isn’t a disease. It’s a bad decision. Tens of thousands of children die of cancer every year. Cancer- a REAL disease. A disease they never asked for.

Their cause of death shouldn’t be categorized alongside dipshits that chose to shoot drugs into their veins.

I’m not arguing this with you. So fuck off.

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago

It's very rude to just swear at someone who hasn't done anything to you. You don't seem very nice.

I'm still confused though, if someone ate some mercury because they bit down on a thermometer or something should their mercury poisoning not be diagnosed as mercury poisoning? should it not be treated the same way?

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