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this post was submitted on 26 Dec 2023
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There are places that state they have "unlimited vacations" but I expect they will fire you if you take too many days off. A friend of mine has all the Fridays in the year off, plus the regular vacations.
Then it's not unlimited and I'd rather just know how much time I can take off, than wondering if I'm skirting the limits.
I totally agree that it's better to know in advance. But that's part of the strategy it seems, you're too afraid to push it, so you get too few
I don't think a place like that exists I think OP's friend is just lying to them to excuse why they got fired. I've never heard of a company with unlimited holidays but then fire somebody for taking them.
Nah, ey were not fired (yet?) and I also worked there before unlimited vacations became a thing, so I kinda think they may went that way. As was said somewhere around this comment with unlim you can guilt/fear your employees into working more and then not pay them unspent days.
Edit: clarity
Where is this? What is the point in guilt in your employees to work in longer hours when you can just contract them to work longer hours perfectly legally?
I think the benefits to the company of "unlimited time off" are
Many companies don't do that even with fixed time off: see every company I ever worked at.
Apparently this varies by state! https://www.paycor.com/resource-center/articles/pto-payout-laws-by-state/
Interesting! I grew up in WA and currently live in UT, and neither require it, though my dad had his paid out when he retired (company policy).
Exactly
Also, I guess there are some fine print conditions like you get less bonuses if you're not working enough, or you're only eligible after working for some time. But that details I don't know
In a third world, not EU or US, surely. The contracts and obligations are treated differently there
I don't know where these places are but pretty much every company will have a minimum number of hours you need to work a year (they usually define this as the maximum number of holidays you can take a year rather than the number of days you actually have to work, but it works out the same way) and they'll tell you what those are, they can't expect you to just guess.
For example i can take a maximum of 21 holiday days a year + however many days I am sick + national holidays.
Maybe although I am sure they have a very sketchy contract as they don't adhere to regulations anyway
This depends entirely on where the world they are