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I'm called a Nazi because I happily am proud of white culture. But every day I think fondly of the brown king Cyrus the Great who invented the first ever empire, and the Japanese icon Murasaki Shikibu who wrote the first novel ever. What if humans just loved each other? History teaches us that we have all been, and always will be - great

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[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 30 points 10 months ago

The implication that there is or has ever been a monolithic "white culture" is idiotic. It is one of those assertions where the left and right horseshoe towards falsehood and depravity. That is to say both the Klan and extreme progressives agree there is a magic all encompassing definition of "whiteness".

This concept itself is racist because it assumes Ashkenazi Jewish, Nordic, Russian, and Irish cultures are identical in some way, when they obviously aren't. "The shared amount of relative pigmentation in skin" doesn't culturally unite people, nor does it account for their shared values and traditions, or lack thereof.

[-] bitofhope@awful.systems 15 points 10 months ago

I understand how "white" become the word for a sort of assumed racial default, but it's really annoying to have to play this weird motte-and-bailey when people don't understand or pretend not to understand that whiteness is not about skin pigmentation and never was. Wanna check my skin on a Pantone chart againts Hitler's and then guess which one of us he thought was merely an "honorary aryan"?

I wish we had a better word for it.

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 16 points 10 months ago

"Italian" was excluded from "white" in the US in living memory

[-] gentooer@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

I mean, we don't consider Italians white too over here, but we also don't think there's some kind of "white culture". I'm Flemish and that's my culture, and it's definitely not the same as any other Western European culture.

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