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[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 16 points 11 months ago

no but seriously tho

I'm a cis dude, overall quite masc, but it drives me up the wall how peak acceptable fun in male gender expression is wearing a Hawaiian shirt.

Anything beyond that (e.g. painting nails) is automatically queer. Which is fine, I am queer, but why would my cis gender expression be classified as queer?? Or put another way, why don't cishet men paint their nails, wear earrings, or skirts or crop tops? Do they hate fun?

Wearing a crop-top in public sounds super fun if it wasn't for the fact that a bland black crop top would earn me even more attention than if I was Margot Robbie herself. My introverted ass can't handle that. But also I really wanna. God fucking damnit we truly do love in a society.

Sorry about the rant I guess I had more on my mind than I thought.

[-] Shou@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

They don't hate fun, they just hate being asociated with anything remotely feminine. Woman = bad for the past god knows how long our society has been rolling with that.

[-] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

It's understandable. Really weird how people qualify others. "Queer" is such a -get them all- word, that it doesn't even mean anything to me anymore... By now it seems like queer means not being the extremely masculine, muscely manly man and not being the super pretty perfect 1.70 meters woman..

[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

IMO a queer person is by definition GSRM. I wouldn't call anyone Queer that isn't part of the community, it's weird.

But queer as an adjective can mean many things. It's basically taken on the mantle of "gay" in that sense. 10 years ago we'd say "anything LGBT-adjacent is gay", now for the sake of inclusion/intersectionality the meaning has been transferred to "queer" and I'm all for it.

The fact that people not fitting strict gender norms are being called queer... well 15 years ago they'd have been called metrosexual or butch or straight-up slurs lol. The behaviors haven't changed, and that's the problem.

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