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The suspensions affected several journalists and commentators, including Texas Observer journalist Steven Monacelli, Ken Klippensten of The Intercept, podcaster Rob Rousseau, and Alan MacLeod of MintPress News. The landing page for their accounts says it’s been suspended, but does not give any explanation as to why. A message on the profiles simply states “X suspends accounts which violate the X rules.”

The ban didn’t just hit journalists either. Several prominent-left leaning accounts were also purged from the website, including the account for the TrueAnon podcast and @zei_squirrel, a cartoon squirrel that tweets media criticism of figures like Glenn Greenwald.

This isn't the first time the site has banned reporters. In April, it permanently suspended Wired reporter Dell Cameron after he spoke with a hacker who accessed conservative pundit Matt Walsh’s emails. In December of 2022, it suspended the accounts of ten journalists who’d been critical of site owner Elon Musk.

https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-x-twitter-journalists-banning-spree-1851151593

https://twitter.com/liz_franczak/status/1744712132015370527

Edit: they're back now

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[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 111 points 10 months ago

Bro why the fuck is anyone still on Twitter this is ridiculous at this point. Just go use fucking Bluesky or something do you not understand that Twitter is dead? It’s done. It’s gone. It has ceased to be.

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 72 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Some people have their ego tied to their follower count and it's sad.

Mastodon is the obvious choice for people already using Lemmy. They're both part of the Fediverse. no-copyright

Not just an ego thing - some people have livelihoods that depend on their follower count. Twitter is very important to update Youtube subscribers, Twitch followers etc. on things. Remember, we are in the early stages of the Technological Adoption Life Cycle (assuming the Fediverse actually catches on) so most people don't use the Fediverse. As a content creator, you have to adapt to what people currently use.

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

There were ways to automatically connect Twitter to the Fediverse and give you the best of both worlds, but Elon killed them. 🙁

So much for the "free market" lmao

[-] xj9@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

sounds like we need a commercial cooperative social media organization that can foot bills like this to give users/creators alternative options, without restricting their reach. i don't want to give twitter that much money, but an org that can foot that bill probably has to make significantly more than 500k USD / year. social media can be big money if its done well. maybe a bunch of crafty marxists and nerds can figure that out. i'm working on some plans to give it a shot, mastodon has a lot of potential, but there are a lot of on-boarding issues that i think could be easily solved by caring a little less about advertising "federation and open source" as the main selling point. ya feel?

i don't think this is particularly "revolutionary", but with facebook entering a woefully unprepared fediverse (and being cheered on by mastodon core devs) i think some kind of leftist media platform needs to be assembled to mount a resistance and carve out a niche that isn't overrun by reactionaries and liberals.

[-] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 10 months ago

i think some kind of leftist media platform needs to be assembled to mount a resistance and carve out a niche that isn't overrun by reactionaries and liberals.

I’ve been thinking the same for a while, it would be nice to have not just one site but an entire ecosystem of Marxist internet all linked together.

[-] xj9@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

One of my goals for my project is to improve federation between Akkoma and Lemmy. First class support for coms would really make it for me even if they can't be created & managed locally. I want it too.

Edit: I have a whole plan that goes along with my other post that I hope will work out. I'll probably post something about it once I'm a little further along.

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm spinning up my own single-user Mastodon instance and the VPS required to do so is surprisingly cheap; it just takes a little technical knowledge. If I were a little more well off I could easily open it up for user registrations.

mastodon has a lot of potential, but there are a lot of on-boarding issues that i think could be easily solved by caring a little less about advertising "federation and open source" as the main selling point. ya feel?

I'm not sure I understand, but I want to. Can you elaborate?

[-] xj9@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago

The Hexbear Method. Build the website and then federate it. The value doesn't come from "open source" or "federation", but they are nice things to have. I think widespread self-hosting is ultimately beneficial, but that's another side-benefit not really a broad selling point.

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 68 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Let’s face it, everyone is still on Twitter, even those who were the loudest about boycotting it back then.

This is not the early 2000s when social media platforms were still carving out their own turfs. This is the terminal stage where a handful of social media companies have already captured the entire market.

The idea that decentralization can somehow topple the central authority is a myth, just like how Bitcoiners continue to believe that their fake currency can somehow topple the central banks.

There is a reason why Marxists talk about seizing the means of production, not creating alternative structures around it.

[-] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 69 points 10 months ago

Actually the CPC was so successful because it did create alternatives to the warlord institutions that folks could rely on, Marxists have always been creating alternative structures around the current order to bypass them.

Also my sibling in sinai, you are posting on the federated alternative to reddit

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Land reform was instrumental to unleashing the revolutionary potential of the peasantry, but in the end, the race between the CPC and the KMT to capture the Japanese industries in the Northeast as the Soviets began to withdraw became the most crucial moment that defined the future of the Chinese communist movement.

Mao was famous for saying that he is willing to give up all their existing bases in China, so long as they can capture the Northeast (where the most developed heavy industries built by the Japanese stood), the revolutionary movement would survive. There simply wasn’t enough heavy industries in all the other regions of China combined at the time to sustain an ongoing war with the KMT. Mao was very aware of this fact and was supremely adaptable to the dynamic and changing conditions of the time.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago
[-] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

Thanks, my partner invented it, they're great

[-] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

I dont get it. Is it about moses or the canal?

[-] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago

It's like a Moses thing, my brother in Christ is funny but limited to Christian adjacent people atleast, whereas everyone can be a sibling and every abrahamic religion's had something going on in the Sinai.

[-] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago

The idea that decentralization can somehow topple the central authority is a myth, just like how Bitcoiners continue to believe that their fake currency can somehow topple the central banks.

Equating free & open equivalents, which just need adoption, to cryptocurrency which has significant flaws doesn't make sense to me... It costs nothing to switch, there's no inherent risks involved. It remains to be seen what happens long term with Twitter financially too. Maybe Musk gets another State/DOD bailout or it's too valuable as propaganda/data collection to some present shareholder, but that's not decided.

I don't use any Twitter or equivalents, but I do see screenshots and archive/proxy links to it.

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It’s the same reason why Linux is the free and even superior alternative to Windows and Mac, but most people will never use it. There are, of course, adoption, but it will never achieve the critical mass needed to displace the dominant systems. Most people will just follow whatever everyone is using, and the platforms that have already penetrated the entire depth of the market, and have the most capital, will always have a very strong head start against their competitors.

[-] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

I herd this is the year of linux on the desktop

[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago
[-] voight@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

Seriously that was slanderous! I'm bookmarking this for my next screed.

[-] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 24 points 10 months ago

I mean I'm not

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

There is a reason why Marxists talk about seizing the means of production, not creating alternative structures around it.

Yeah, so unlike utopians like Lenin, who had crazy delusions about somehow creating institutions that operated in parallel to existing power structures in order to smash the state machinery and retain a mostly-functional society.

"Dual Power"? What's that, the name of a syndicate?

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

You misunderstood what I said. There is no contradiction with what Lenin said here.

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

The idea that decentralization can somehow topple the central authority is a myth

So? I can enjoy Hexbear without needing to first eliminate reddit. I do it all the time!

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 42 points 10 months ago

If we reply with a thumbs up emoji to Elon tweeting about Jewish people drinking white people's blood from skulls he'll give me my account back, you'll see.

[-] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 10 months ago

It isn't though no matter how much you tell yourself that. It's still an actually good place and relatively uncensored (despite this random shit) compared to say reddit or insta. You can find a lot of good material on there.

[-] grey_wolf_whenever@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago

ill use bluesky when I see a single funny thing come from there. No one uses it! Twitter is still the only game in town, Im actually surprised threads fumbled so badly.

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago

I couldnt even paste a fucking image into Threads and they had no desktop app. How are the influencers supposed to make any fucking posts for people to look at if they can't use a god damn computer

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago

I don't have an account on any of these but Bluesky is login-walled.

[-] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago

not for long, an admin said invite codes are going away so I imagine it will be neverending-Septermber days over there soon

[-] guts@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

Lmao X is still active regardless of your hate to Musk. Bluesky and Threads suck.

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

Bluesky is shit and the app sucks

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