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It's basically the new /r/GenZedong.

They should've done this way before this became a problem.

I'd like Nakoichi's thoughts on this as well.

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[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It was and it wasn't, afaik.

GenZedong was too blatant and shitposty with its content and was quarantined for being too toxic.

Or that's what I was told anyway. They also kept brigading others too.

But yes, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a disinfo strike on top of other factors, which I'm not entirely unsympathetic to.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 63 points 10 months ago

"Brigading" is a nonsense concept. These aren't private communities. Coming to the community and engaging with the content isn't an invasion. That's just using the website 🙄

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

Are trolls just using the website? Kerryposters? Is that Israeli app that directs users to dogpile pro-Palestine social media comments OK?

Brigading should mean more than organic users posting a link in a friendlier space and saying "hey check this shit out." But I wouldn't say it's a useless concept altogether.

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago

kerryposters got banned for spamming, not brigading.

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago

You can make the same "they were just using the website" argument for spam. It's fair to set the moderation bar above "is this functionality designed in."

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago

You know what I mean

[-] voight@hexbear.net 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

[speaking from within your walls] If the impression reddit follows an actual system with moderating communists makes you feel like Tankie Bunker subs are safer, I won't disturb that.

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago
[-] voight@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

BalticSSRs, sendinthetanks, informedtankie, should be fine for a while if they're not banned over Israel posting

my advice would be act like Al Jazeera to remain on reddit if that's anyone's priority.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago

Also, many leftist/commie subs followed your advice to the T. The mods at MoreTankieChapo at the end were in full cooperation with the admins and removing content the admins didn't like. They still got banned. FULLCOMMUNISM mods were in cooperation with the admins and still got perma-quarantined. Following Reddit rules isn't enough to stay unbanned, certain types of anti-imperialist posting and truth saying about ISIS/Al Qaeda/CIA/Mossad will just get you banned over tiny minor infractions or delays from the mods.

[-] voight@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

It's like taking cops seriously about giving people contradictory Simon Says instructions & shooting them

[-] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

MoreMoreTankieChapo even caught a ban for being a MoreTankieChapo ban evasion sub, when they were in fact a leftist infighting schism sub.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago

CTH2 also ate it for being a ban evasion sub of CTH even though it was a different community and split off years before CTH ban

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago

my advice would be act like Al Jazeera

Stoically continue posting content as your family is murdered in front of you?

[-] voight@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago

express disgust at cruelty and waste but stick within the narrative and keep track of when the rules change

[-] voight@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago

https://orinocotribune.com/inconsistencies-between-arabic-and-english-programming-al-jazeera-walks-a-tightrope/

This Orinoco Tribune article posted by Al_Sham (well-highlighted) in the news mega got me thinking about how I need to write down my impressions the way seemingly radical journalism can subvert and demoralize, I'm sure this is better put by other people.

To lay out a few general traits that I will back up with examples (starting with ones less likely to piss people off then moving up)

equivocating US/NATO/Canada/Aus/SK/Japan/Zionist tactics/political aims with enemy

defeatism, under the guise of outrage. US/etc. side is merely accused of disproportionate response. the sustainability of our tactics isn't questioned, but the morality of it is. it is frequently remarked it could be spent on healthcare instead. (this enforces more myths about government spending than it dispels, which you can see by how it gets equal play with libertarians)

strictly using US/NATO/etc. sources, even if critical. uses the logic of anti-disinformation against what you'd consider

amplifies existing messaging possibly without attribution

dilutes & prunes messaging to get more coverage within the Western media sphere & its outputs

sensationalism focuses attention on redundant events & doesn't examine the larger program an atrocity is a part of (My Lai for instance, Doug Valentine calls this out in the book he wrote after the Phoenix Program, mentioning Hersh, Scahill, Ellsberg, Amy Goodman, and others, if you want to go look at examples, although those are also examples of how to maintain access to intelligence sources tit for tat)

Sorry for yapping I'm walking around

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They don't even do that, that at least would honor the martyrs who have been killed doing journalism in Gaza. They instead altered their English coverage to be less anti-Israel after Blinken ordered them to. They cucked.

Qatar should have told Blinken to fuck off and have western media spend a month in Gaza to align their reporting with reality, but instead they folded and sold out Palestine like all the gulf states do

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago

my advice would be act like Al Jazeera

Throw your reporters under the bus to die and follow US orders to “put a lid” on the anti-Israel sentiment?

[-] voight@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

Yes expect to get nothing for your efforts basically. Follow instructions and get punished for it.

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

I don't intend to; I mostly use it for other things.

[-] voight@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

Do NOT act like Al Jazeera then

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago
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[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

I'm so confused right now lmao

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

Being blatant in your communism is good. Genzedong was better than any subreddit that exists on Reddit today

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