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President Biden on Monday night issued a plea for supporters to donate to his campaign in the wake of former President Trump’s victory in Iowa.

“Looks like Donald Trump just won Iowa. He’s the clear front runner on the other side at this point,” Biden wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter.

“But here’s the thing: this election was always going to be you and me vs. extreme MAGA Republicans. It was true yesterday and it’ll be true tomorrow,” Biden added, posting a link to a fundraising page.

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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 123 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"Don't vote for a rapist" is a fine platform to run on at this point, where conservatives are ready to vote for a rapist.

Biden is getting way too much shit for explicitly saying that voting for him is better than voting for a rapist.

This is not his fault, go call your grandma names for voting into the two party system, this dichotomy had been perpetuated for decades.

Biden is the better presidential candidate, and by far the better president, running as a contrast to a rapist traitor is an understandable salient facet of his platform.

It isn't all of it, but if a large minority is ready to vote for a rapist, saying "I don't support rape, if you don't support rape vote Dem" is a good starting campaign point to let the majority know where you stand.

You aren't voting for two rapists.

You're voting for trump, a rapist, or Biden, a center politician who has made several responsible ethical and moral policy decisions in his first term that have benefited the majority of the country.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 47 points 8 months ago

"Insurrectionist" is too long a word for most Americans.

I think "don't vote for a rapist" works quite nicely.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 17 points 8 months ago

That's so funny, I'm literally looking up other words for insurrectionist right now because I completely agree, haha.

Maybe traitor, but that's a little nationalist for me and the piece of crap doesn't believe in anything anyway.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Benedict Donald, it has that historical ring to it.

(Unfortunately history is illegal anywhere MAGA lives)

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

I almost used that! But assumed the same stumbling block.

[-] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They voted for a rapist last time, and the time before, why would that stop them now? These allegations aren't new, and we've known since epstein was caught that Trump frequented the lolita express, and trump himself said epstein was a 'good friend'.

Why would that change any of these peoples minds now? They've had ample time to educate themselves, if ever they wanted to, and I doubt they're voting based on trump anyway as much as 'muh elephant better than ur donkey'.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You're not trying to change everyone's minds, you're trying to repeat what happened four years ago, when he lost, even before he was found liable for rape and insurrection in courts.

They didn't vote for a rapist, they voted for a bully.

He was, in 2020, in a better position than he is in now, and now if you debate anyone, you can mention that Trump is a rapist, committed direct election fraud and insurrection.

Which makes him a poor candidate.

[-] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 8 months ago

Nothing has changed other than the government killing trumps 'good friend' epstein to hide his client list

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

Non-sequitir and unsubstantiated, but I'll agree that your theory is very entertaining and forcefully circumstantial.

[-] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'll add more to the theory: Given the number of times epstein met with the former prime minister of isreal in his personal home stateside (and specifically never at the island), it's extremely likely that the reason epstein was killed is because he was working with the CIA and Mossad to run a blackmail ring of the richest and most influential people in the world.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

Don't misunderstand my reticence to imply that these things cannot happen, conspiracies obviously often occur and have tons of historical substantial weight, I just prefer my conspiracies incontrovertible.

Why do you believe that the CIA and mossaf specifically were running this pedophile ring with Epstein?

[-] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Okay so like circumstantial, proximal attribution.

I get it, I just don't think it helps to assert suspicions as fact until those facts are less malleable.

I have not read that first book, have you read that book?

[-] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 8 months ago

I did specifically note the word "theory" when I posited my assertion.

Additionally the book is called "Epstein: Dead men tell no tales" and I can't make a 100% confirmation that the books integrity has been maintained as I read a translated version (overview here: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48720807-epstein), the overview presented by the book is, in my opinion, extremely watered down and appears to have been censored, either in context or content, to provide a minimally invasive view of what happens behind closed doors.

The book could be used as a foray into questioning authority, but not as a reason to riot or scream, more as a thought provoking and reflecting work to allow others to look more seriously at those they've allowed into power.

It's not as though it's terribly 'eye opening' as I've worked with various governments and government related organizations so not a lot phazes me any more, but it isn't something I would recommend against reading.

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