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Biden fundraises off Trump’s Iowa win: ‘He’s the clear front runner’ (thehill.com)

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President Biden on Monday night issued a plea for supporters to donate to his campaign in the wake of former President Trump’s victory in Iowa.

“Looks like Donald Trump just won Iowa. He’s the clear front runner on the other side at this point,” Biden wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter.

“But here’s the thing: this election was always going to be you and me vs. extreme MAGA Republicans. It was true yesterday and it’ll be true tomorrow,” Biden added, posting a link to a fundraising page.

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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 123 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"Don't vote for a rapist" is a fine platform to run on at this point, where conservatives are ready to vote for a rapist.

Biden is getting way too much shit for explicitly saying that voting for him is better than voting for a rapist.

This is not his fault, go call your grandma names for voting into the two party system, this dichotomy had been perpetuated for decades.

Biden is the better presidential candidate, and by far the better president, running as a contrast to a rapist traitor is an understandable salient facet of his platform.

It isn't all of it, but if a large minority is ready to vote for a rapist, saying "I don't support rape, if you don't support rape vote Dem" is a good starting campaign point to let the majority know where you stand.

You aren't voting for two rapists.

You're voting for trump, a rapist, or Biden, a center politician who has made several responsible ethical and moral policy decisions in his first term that have benefited the majority of the country.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 47 points 8 months ago

"Insurrectionist" is too long a word for most Americans.

I think "don't vote for a rapist" works quite nicely.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 17 points 8 months ago

That's so funny, I'm literally looking up other words for insurrectionist right now because I completely agree, haha.

Maybe traitor, but that's a little nationalist for me and the piece of crap doesn't believe in anything anyway.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Benedict Donald, it has that historical ring to it.

(Unfortunately history is illegal anywhere MAGA lives)

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[-] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They voted for a rapist last time, and the time before, why would that stop them now? These allegations aren't new, and we've known since epstein was caught that Trump frequented the lolita express, and trump himself said epstein was a 'good friend'.

Why would that change any of these peoples minds now? They've had ample time to educate themselves, if ever they wanted to, and I doubt they're voting based on trump anyway as much as 'muh elephant better than ur donkey'.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You're not trying to change everyone's minds, you're trying to repeat what happened four years ago, when he lost, even before he was found liable for rape and insurrection in courts.

They didn't vote for a rapist, they voted for a bully.

He was, in 2020, in a better position than he is in now, and now if you debate anyone, you can mention that Trump is a rapist, committed direct election fraud and insurrection.

Which makes him a poor candidate.

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[-] M500@lemmy.ml 26 points 8 months ago

No amount of money is going to convince hardcore maga to vote for anyone else.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 8 months ago

There are, crazy to believe, tens of millions of undecided voters every election cycle. The media calls them "moderates" but really it's clueless people that don't understand politics that vote based off gut feeling or "I'd like to have a beer with that guy!". Getting through to these chucklefucks is critical to winning elections, especially when you're campaigning in a swing state like Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, New Hampshire, etc.

[-] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 7 points 8 months ago

Won't the money be spent trying to scare anyone who's anti trump into not staying at home come voting day?

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago

Yes. Politics nowadays is less about winning the argument and more about actually getting your supporters to show up.

[-] Elektrotechnik@feddit.de 20 points 8 months ago

I just checked out the comments on that twitter post. Yikes, that's quite the shit show :D

Fingers crossed for your election, guys!

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

[-] excitingburp@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

Even if it is bots behave like it isn't. Go out and vote.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 9 points 8 months ago

Weird how Elon kept whining about bots being rampant until it came out that half of his followers were bots and Twitter started bleeding users and advertisers.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago

It's not weird. He's a pathological liar and fully intended to make Twitter worse. It's why Saudi Arabia gave him $22B to buy it with no expectation of an ROI.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

There still is a long way to go. Somewhere around mid April will start retail politics and the real election narrative will be set.

[-] CluelessLemmyng@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 8 months ago

It's going to come down to Abortion, Education, and Store prices during the general election. Most Americans are not invested in Israel or Ukraine.

If prices come down before Nov, Biden should win based on how Virginia turned out during it's latest election. But it will be a close election.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 months ago

MAGA is very much invested in not giving Ukraine any more money. Which was Trump's plan since 2019.

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

I love the title cutting off a very important part of the quote. You guys are just helping spread fear.

[-] criitz@reddthat.com 6 points 8 months ago

Which part?

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

“Looks like Donald Trump just won Iowa. He’s the clear front runner on the other side at this point,” that's the full quote. The quote fragment in the title makes it seems like Biden is admitting that Trump is ahead of him. Welcome to modern "journalism" and MicroWave is just a post farm so it doesn't care what "information" it spreads.

[-] stochasticity@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I'm pretty sure in this context frontrunner refers to the choices within the Republican primary, not the general. As in Trump is beating desantis and co.

[-] mmagod@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

a younger candidate puppet would have drawn in the millenials/genz vote this time around but boomers gonna boom..

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

President Biden on Monday night issued a plea for supporters to donate to his campaign in the wake of former President Trump’s victory in Iowa.

He’s the clear front runner on the other side at this point,” Biden wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter.

News outlets called Iowa for Trump roughly 30 minutes after the caucuses officially got underway.

Polling in other early primary states, such as New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada, also show Trump leading.

Biden used his first campaign speeches of 2024 to warn that Trump poses a grave threat to U.S. democracy, citing his refusal to accept the 2020 election results, his refusal to condemn political violence and his vows for revenge if reelected.

Trump, speaking to supporters Monday in Des Moines on Monday night, slammed Biden as “the worst president we’ve had in the history of our country.”

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