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Most of those comments criticizing Lemmy are actually criticisms that apply to reddit.
I'm far more likely to find a community full of Nazis on reddit than I am here. It's not something that most instances would tolerate. Meanwhile, the default subs on reddit have comment sections filled with thinly veiled white nationalist accounts and drop-shipping scambots.
I guess technically such instances do exist in the fediverse, but they're effectively silenced because every major instance defederates from them.
They're are definitely some real aggressive ones, I lost my old account but I had one constantly try to pick apart every aspect of what I said. It ended up with me basically saying I'm confused at this point, I might be too autistic to understand where you're coming from. Then they accused me of lying because I admitted to being wrong on a few points.
I'm not a fan of their aggressiveness, they are an extreme but not fascist extreme.
Most instances here however are still federated with hexbears who constantly spread fascist Russian and Chinese Propaganda.
"Fascist" isn't really the correct term since they're subscribers to left-wing authoritarianism/state Marxism, whereas fascism is exclusively right-wing. Don't get me wrong -- it's still problematic -- but at least their end goals are ostensibly worthy (whether or not you think they're sincere about actually achieving communism as a stateless, classless society is another matter), while fascism seeks oppression by design.
I've had hexbears be consistently hostile and even outright bigoted (which surprised me), so I block the instance and every hexbear account on sight, but I do at least understand why an instance might not fully defederate from them.
Just because they take a different approach to improving peoples conditions that is more concrete than the paper thin protections offered by capitalist societies gay acceptance doesnt make them outright bigoted. Which is basically a 'we wont put you in an insane asylum or prison anymore but we will use you as moral panic bait forever in our newspapers to turn a profit' approach.
LGBT+ liberation must include improving peoples material conditions, countries actively being genocided or deprived because of western policies deserve our support as victims of our own aggression too; If you actually care about LGBT+ people globally it means stopping our devestation of them, then letting them heal.
I've been to China, I felt much more safe there as a openly bi man with my male partner at the time than I ever do in the UK; our news whips people up into a frenzy and makes people attack each other physically, you dont get the same undercurrent of rage in socialist countries towards LGBT+ people, just a lack of understanding.
Not to mention the way the imperial core constantly stokes up homophobia and transphobia abroad
Lets not even mention how China has entire 200+ million population zones that have been openly tolerant and accepting of trans people culturally, forever (Shanghai) and that China isnt even actively oppressive towards LGBT+ people, just ignorant in some areas.
Nowhere in China are politicans debating actively genociding trans people, they are in Florida. Trans people are also the medias current beating horse in the UK.
A lot less homeless gay and trans children too.
Next to none, as well as a 90% outright ownership rate.
I know trans comrades here in the UK who have been forcibly no-fault evicted 6 times in the last 2 years when the landlords found they where trans out. They suddenly 'decided' to move in, usually leaving them homeless and having to scramble to rent somewhere at half there monthly income while working two insecure jobs and being unable to access health care.
How is this better?
It’s not incorrect to refer to China’s and Russia’s governments as fascist.
The shoe doesn't fit, though. That's not the meaning of the term.
Stalinism operated under the auspices of Marxism, as did Maoism. Like it or not, these are Marxists. The problem is they're authoritarian Marxists, not fascists.
And fascists don't call everyone they disagree with "liberal." I myself reject liberalism, which upholds capitalism and other inequitable hierarchies. Shall we call liberals "fascist" as well, since they too engage in oppression and exploitation of marginalized groups? Certainly not, and nor should we call authoritarian leftists "fascists."
Fascism is a strictly right-wing ideology. Far right, in fact, which is why we typically don't call liberals by the term, even though it too is a less extreme right-wing ideology.
Not really. Most instances I've seen aren't federated with them. I had to go out of my way to find an instance that was because I don't want defederation to be the first tool now that instance blocking exists on a user level. I also didn't want the biased and trigger-happy mods of Lemmy.ml who seem to ban users and delete comments at a moment's notice. Notably, the biggest instance, lemmy.world, is not federated with them, and so for most first-time users who go there it does make Lemmy a less hostile place.
go back to reddit
"Fascist"
Man words really don't have meaning anymore.
John B Fascae (the inventor of fascism) is rolling in his grave.
Friendly reminder for everyone here - not just the poster above - that the topic of this community is Reddit. There's lots of leeway for off-topic, but this sort of discussion about instances and geopolitics is bound to create unnecessary conflict here.
Do I have to keep tapping the sign? Or can you just stop trying to equate communists with fascists?
https://jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory
11 downvotes, yikes.
In a just world, this kind of comment would be grounds for a warrant to search your hard drive for illegal content. They'd probably bust a lot of creeps that way.
Omega_Haxors, you're free to defend hexbear or any other instance as much as you want. However witch hunting is not to be tolerated, as per rules #1 and #4, and implying that someone must be a criminal (or a "creep") for having a stupid take on hexbear and two governments is witch hunting. Don't do this.
Further violations of the rules will not be tolerated, specially not if witch hunting is involved.
it's a problem with an elegant solution: block that instance on user level. Unlike reddit, you will have to mute a community, and block all the user one by one.
Blocking on a user level kinda sucks. When you're in a conversation you expect to be participating in the same conversation as everyone else, not to be blind to half of what is going on.
Doesn't that happen when instances defederate too? You discuss something on Lemm.ee, hexbear users comment, but LW users don't see what they are saying, while lemm.ee users do
I think it's based on which Instance the community is on. If it's on lemm.ee you might be right. If it's on LW, they won't even see it to be able to comment.
But that's what blocking supposed to mean. You refuse communication with specific user/instance and that's it, it's a bit extreme to demand everyone to participate with your ban just so your feed will looks consistent. You might not encounter the problem when you're in an instance that defed with them, but it will be the same when you went to another instance that still federated with them.
Just so we're all participating in the same conversation, yes. Yeah, I agree it's extreme, but sometimes it's called for.
I'm pretty happy with lemmy.world's federation at the moment.
r/worldnews turned into pro-Israel, genocide fan club. Most of the main news subs became the same after October 7th. Politics has no place in administration yet that's what undid so many once great subs