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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Hypersapien@lemmy.world to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world

What are cis and trans alternate types of? I don't think it's "gender identity" because wouldn't that just be man, woman or nonbinary regardless of whether they're cis or trans? Cis/trans just being a qualifier?

If the answer is "I am cis" or "I am trans", what is the question?

Edit: Someone came up with the term "gender congruity" and (after looking up the definition of "congruity") I think this describes what I'm talking about perfectly.

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[-] MrShelbySan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Please note I’m typing this as a trans man. Being “cis” or “trans” stems from someone’s gender.

Basically, do you identify as your birth gender (not sex, gender and sex are different)? If the answer is yes, you are “cis”. If the answer is no, like I my case, I was born female, I identify as a male, then you are are trans.

I hope this answers your question.

[-] Spzi@lemmy.click 1 points 1 year ago

Basically, do you identify as your birth gender (not sex, gender and sex are different)?

The additional explanation actually confused me. Let's compare the two sentences:

  • A) Basically, do you identify as your birth gender?

  • B) Basically, do you identify as your birth sex?

I assume biological sex can be identified by looking at your body as a new born baby, and gender is usually inferred accordingly. So I would assume new borns are being assigned a gender which mathes their biology, although they probably don't have any opinions themselves on the topic.

Anyways, what's the difference between A and B? I feel you felt it was important to point it out, and I just can't see any.

[-] Hypersapien@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I understand what they are, I'm asking if there is a name for the category of characteristic that they both belong to.

I'm not entirely sure there is a word for it. If not, maybe there should be.

[-] VoxAdActa@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I understand what they are, I'm asking if there is a name for the category of characteristic that they both belong to.

You're not getting an answer to your question because the question, as stated, is incomprehensible. You're asking for a "category of characteristic" that a pair of antonym adjectives "belong to"? That doesn't make sense. They apply to a whole host of characteristics, because they're not describing a specific characteristic, but how a characteristic relates to the whole. Just like "homo" and "hetero"; homozygous, heterogenous, homocystine, and heterophony are all words that use the "homo" or "hetero" prefix to describe how those words relate to other concepts in their category. It's the same with "cis" and "trans". The prefixes don't "belong" to a category of characteristics, they explicitly exist outside of the characteristics of the words their modifying.

That's the best I can do with the way you've chosen to phrase your question, and I admit it's a reach, but your question is gibberish.

[-] Hypersapien@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Male, female or nonbinary are a person's gender.
White, black, asian (nonexclusively) are a person's race.
Right, left are a person's handedness.
Gay, straight, bi are a person's sexual orientation.
Cis, trans are a person's ________.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Gender prefixes?

Cis and trans are like homo and hetero - they are a part of the English language.

You can have homogenized milk; you can have trans fats.

You can also have homosexual, transexual, cisexual and heterosexual animals.

[-] morhp@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"gender identity" might fit. "Identity" taken literally, to mean if the birth sex/gender and the actual expressed gender are identical.

Edit: or "gender divergence" if you want to focus on the difference instead of the sameness.

[-] BassaForte@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Gender modality

[-] arquebus_x@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Cis and trans don’t really describe a person in the same way as the others. They describe a relationship between characteristics, which none of the other descriptors you list do. You could argue, almost correctly, that cis and trans are part of a person’s gender, but neither one of them is a person’s anything.

[-] GaryPonderosa@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Hetero and homo describe a relationship between characteristics. Sexual preference and gender are both characteristics.

[-] Hellsadvocate@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago
[-] Hypersapien@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I talked about that in the original post.

[-] RustledTeapot@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

"Relationships between gender identity and birth sex."

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