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‘America Is Under Attack’: Inside the Anti-D.E.I. Crusade
(www.nytimes.com)
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D.E.I. programs explicitly treat people differently based on race. Such programs have no place in modern society.
That only makes sense if we aren't already treating people differently based on race, which we do all the time.
"We can't stop doing X as long as we're still doing X" doesn't exactly make much sense either.
"We can't stop doing un-X as long as we're still doing X" FTFY
X, in this case, is "treating people differently based on race."
I would love if we were to do un-X.
I’d say X is more like “disproportionately and systematically disadvantaging people of color.”
So now DEI programs are only for people of colour?
Why not just "disadvantaged people"? That takes race out of the equation entirely, and everyone is satisfied. Unless excluding disadvantaged people of specific races or genders or whatever is actually the point.
Extend to gender, ethnicity, LGBTQ, whatever…the key is the “systematically.” We can’t assess relative (dis)advantage at an individual level, but we can recognize it at a systemic level and develop programs that counter it systemically.
"Because it's easier" is not a good excuse for discrimination, IMO.
The choice is “help people from systematically disadvantaged groups” or “don’t.” I’d argue that the “don’t” would be the easier choice.
No, that's a false dichotomy, there are other choices. Such as "help disadvantaged people regardless of their genetics." I reject the "but it's too hard" argument. If racial discrimination or gender discrimination or discrimination based on orientation is wrong, then it's wrong. Don't put an asterisk on it with a list of types that it's okay for.
Ok then, how about instead of complaining about the best solution we've thought of so far, you tell us what your brilliant solution to racism is? I'll wait.
I already did that in the comment you're responding to:
Or two comments previous to this one:
How often do you need it repeated?
It does if you start with the assumption that you need to do ANYTHING POSSIBLE in the name of equity, including causing further inequities at the individual level.