I'm not bringing this up with the lib I work with; he's actually defended indiscriminate shelling of Donetsk, trying to claim that perhaps the people in Donetsk were rioting.

EDIT: I also explained to him that Ukraine wants the land, but they don't want the people, and he saw nothing wrong with that, stating that if that was the case, the ethnic Russians should just leave. I hate what's happening to people's grasp on right and wrong today.