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Most Canadians who plan to vote Liberal doing so to stop Conservatives from winning: poll (www.ctvnews.ca)

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Most Canadians who plan on voting for the Liberal party are more motivated to stop the Conservatives from winning the election rather than endorsing the party's vision and leader, according to a new poll released on Monday.

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[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 years ago

Instead they should vote for the NDP. The only party that truly cares about the biddle class.

[-] brenticus@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago

ABC. Anything but conservative. FPTP is winner takes all, so vote for Liberal or NDP depending on who's more likely to get in in your area. And pray to whatever force may be that someone puts in a sensible voting system at some point.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 58 points 2 years ago

Remember when Trudeau promised election reform when he was elected the first time?

Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 years ago

I remember every election when I vote NDP.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago

We got dental and in theory pharma with this minority government. Maybe the NDP can twist their arm into voting reforms next time if we get another?

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I remember seeing an analysis of FPTP and in about 70% of the elections since the 60s it favoured the Liberals against NDP and PC on a riding by riding and general election basis. It'll be a cold day in hell before they change anything.

[-] jadero@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Which is disgusting! Their job is supposed to be about doing what is best for the people who live here, not whatever best serves the interests of their party. If there were a system that was good for the people while eliminating the concept of parties, every party should be glad to do the work of implementing it.

[-] sik0fewl@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago

Or just vote NDP regardless so that we can stop praying.

[-] brenticus@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

If voting NDP had any more effect than pissing in the wind in my area I would. Unfortunately, they rarely get a significant percentage of the vote and when they do we go conservative. So it's either hold my nose and vote lib or help a conservative who doesn't even live in the city get in.

If polling changes to show the NDP beating the libs here I'm 100% changing my vote. Until then, the system sucks so sometimes voting sucks.

[-] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

As a former resident who lived in (ugh) ol' Stevie Harper's riding, I totally sympathize. However, I took great pleasure in being the green blip in an otherwise homogeneous blue sea. I hope I made them insecure or at least forced them to have to hire an extra analyst...just that one little canker sore in his otherwise perfect, sterile version of Canada.

[-] Mereo@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago

Well, because the liberals didn't reform elections as they promised, we can't do that.

[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

You can, in fact, vote for NDP.

[-] sik0fewl@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

Yeah… how convenient.

sigh…

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago

I really feel privileged to live in an area that's NDP vs LPC where I can merrily vote against the Liberals.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

Local riding 🔤 it is. 👍

In any case it's the local riding election that matters. Some folks vote as if our system is proportional with completely counterproductive results.

[-] admiralteal@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

God it must be so nice not having a two-party system.

[-] dom@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 years ago

Except it pretty much is a two party system with extra steps.

[-] sik0fewl@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

You mean with minority governments.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 years ago

Minority governments have enacted everything that makes Canada good.

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This could just be a feature of getting good things when we give the NDP a larger share of power than usual, though. The Liberals didn't want universal healthcare, it was a concession given to the NDP because they had to. But it's not like a majority NDP situation at the time wouldn't have passed it.

Much the same as dental care today. What exactly are the Liberals bringing to the table other than acting as gatekeepers making sure the system isn't as expansive as it could be?

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

I would be fine with minority governments for the foreseeable future.

As you said, better policy tends to result when there needs to be some level of cross-party cooperation in order to get anything done.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

That's part of the problem though. We can ignore our problems compared to the glaring ones next door.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

Why are minority gouvernements a problem? That's when parties have to make compromises with the NDP and have no choice but to vote on stuff that finally benefit the middle class.