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So you think that Dwarf Fortress has an unimpressive gameplay? You're really saying that a game that had a bug that made cats die because when a dwarf drinks alcohol he sometimes spills some amount on the floor because dwarfs are messy drinkers, cats walk past it and get alcohol on their fur, cats lick themselves clean and so consume alcohol, and since the smallest amount of alcohol was lethal to a cat they were dying has an unimpressive gameplay?
Graphics and gameplay are completely unrelated, a lot of AAA games stand on graphics alone, and a lot of Indies have great gameplay even if the graphics are not great.
Not at all. I played DF (with sprites) and had a great time. The graphics are not fantastic, but are not unappealing either. I know a lot of people loved the ASCII, but personally I'm not into that.
DF devs did the ASCII, you modded the game to have better graphics. So it's both your opinion that the Devs didn't cared to make their game look good and have a good gameplay, invalidating your original point.
Jesus, lay off the guy. Artstyle preferences are a thing...
It's not about artistic preferences. He's literally saying the artstyle isn't good therefore the gameplay isn't good either. The other guy is pointing out the stupidity of that statement.
Precisely my point. Art style of a game does not influence it's gameplay and vice-versa. The original claim was "bad art = bad gameplay", and I'm pointing out that DF has an undeniable bad art and an undeniable good gameplay.
I know this might blow your mind, but different people have different opinions and that's ok.
Yes, but if you're opinion is A means B and you agree that there's an example of A where not B, you're either stupid, hypocrite or trolling.
He claimed bad graphics means bad gameplay, agreed that DF has bad graphics, and agreed that it has good gameplay, therefore his original point is wrong by his own standard because he agrees that there's a game that has bad graphics but good gameplay, therefore not all games that had bad graphics have bad gameplay. I really can't simplify it any more.
If his opinion was that DF had shitty gameplay or good graphics then it's subjective, and we could have a subjective discussion about those points, but because he agreed to that the original point is logically wrong.