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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.
[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]
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... [cut out the part where people explain to him why they think this is fucked up] ...
Ah yes, this feels like 'my kids went no contact with me suddenly and they refuse to tell me why!' (for people not in the know, they kids have told their parents why over and over again, and they refuse to accept the reasons, there are entire forums filled with people like this).
From his own description:
Ender's Game... ow god. (I could go into a rant why that is a pretty dangerous book for badly socialized nerds but I will not, there prob are articles out there which explain the way this book manipulates the reader into thinking sociopathy is fine and vastly overreacting is fine and shouldn't be blamed on the sociopath). (It does fit, him being a fan of Enders game and not getting why non-consensually involving people around you in a punching game as an adult is fucked up).
And another edit: Ow my god. "What's it like to have sex with Duncan?"
There is:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180820084522/http://www4.ncsu.edu/~tenshi/Killer_000.htm
Thanks for the link.
I read a ton of SF but Card always passed me by. I tried to read a followup/sequel/fixup called Ender's Shadow years ago and couldn't get through it.
BTW another big series I could never get through was "Thomas Covenanter" or something, although it was fantasy.
The main character commits rape because this isn't a real universe anyway. You made the right choice.
I think I remember reading about that. Ick.
I also remember reading on the back of the book that the protag would 3 times be offered to stay in the Land and be cured, or something, and 3 times reject the offer. Way to spoil!
This is a pretty good takedown of the series (and other shitty plot devices in SF/F): https://news.ansible.uk/plotdev.html