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[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 65 points 10 months ago

I just realised that the massive increase in German women's conservatism starting in 1990 is because of German reunification doomjak

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

No, not really. East Germany was not particularly more conservative than the West, with the exception of the 1990 election. In fact, as the 90s went on it had a higher vote share for left wing parties, especially the successor of the SED.

It was however, more nationalistic. Leading to the current situation where the far-right is hegemonic there, including the rejection of causes left-liberals hold dear.

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

I think they're referring to West Germany...

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago

The annexation of East Germany didn't really change much in West German politics tbh - and the organizations that were strongly supportive of the GDR (DKP, etc.) were always a marginalized group of troublemakers - by 1990 the neoliberals were growing in popularity in the SPD anyway, and the left wing of the Green Party was realizing that the group had become a lost cause. So not much noticeable change there either.

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago

you're responding to the people talking about the GDR and what it lost in reunification as if they're talking about the west. no one here gives a shit about the west.

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

Er, no?

The original comment was about how women's support for the criteria the chart delineated as progressive/conservative went towards the latter after 1990. Before that, it's almost certain the data only considered west Germany.

Thus, if it went down in 1990, it's to assume that it's at least partially because an increase of conservative population from the annexed regions of the east - right? Former Warsaw Pact countries do tend to have populations that are to the right of what the law was in the AES era.

What I'm saying is that the downward turn on the chart is unlikely to have been caused by that, since while the west had worse laws, its population wasn't that much different from the east's in supporting socially progressive causes. On the economic side, westerners haven't changed and the easterners only turned left with the negative effects of the free market economy restoration.

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

What are the questions though?

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