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[-] HarryLime@hexbear.net 97 points 9 months ago
[-] Sinistar@hexbear.net 90 points 9 months ago

People are calling it "the gender war", and it's like GamerGate times ten. I shit you not it started with a Gacha game developer releasing a "summer skin" of a female character that pissed off the gamers by not showing enough skin.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 68 points 9 months ago

like GamerGate times ten

what-the-hell

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 38 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Look, I'll defend games as a medium and art form all day, but I'll also advocate for a special extra-painful barbara-pit for gacha devs and fans

[-] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think games can be art just like 2D images can be art. Not everything produced within a certain medium has to be considered art. I don't consider corporate logos or banner ads art in the same way I don't consider gacha games art.

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[-] aaro@hexbear.net 80 points 9 months ago

how the fuck are American men getting more conservative since the 2010s

what the fuck silly specs are they looking at the world through (I am aware that the answer is patriarchy)

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 80 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's mainly YouTube/social media. It's on 24/7 for zoomers and younger. What gets promoted on YouTube is all the conservative shitheads (because they have the most money invested in promoting their propaganda), and once you click on conservative commentators you get recommend fascists. Even if you click on 100% Marxist-Leninist stuff, it will recommend you conservative slop.

[-] ComRed2@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago

How can anyone be on the side that big tech social media algorithms push for HARD, and think they're on the side of the "good guys"?

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 38 points 9 months ago

Well chuds think they're against "big tech"

Brainworms brainworms at every level

[-] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 40 points 9 months ago

They’ve moved from edgy libertarianism to edgy fascism

[-] pooh@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago

Is this really what the study shows? The BI article makes that claim but doesn't show any data besides a contradictory graph that shows young men identifying as "liberal" has stayed roughly the same. Yes, the gap between young men and women has increased, but I'm a little skeptical that young men overall have been shifting right compared to previous generations.

[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah idk, something seems off about this data. The UK results are especially weird, I’m not ready to just accept these results. It’s also trying harmonize results from different polls. Might be a broad trend in the US of young women becoming more liberal faster but the idea that young men are more conservative than they were years ago, not sure about that.

This too conveniently falls into reactionary narratives about women.

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[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 76 points 9 months ago

Its almost like women don't want to be property

[-] Tommasi@hexbear.net 70 points 9 months ago

Only slightly more men are moving to the right in most places, it's more due to women moving much more in the opposite direction. Which is very understandable due to open hostility towards women being pretty much mainstream on the right now.

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 45 points 9 months ago

open hostility towards women being pretty much mainstream on the right now.

astronaut-1

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 65 points 9 months ago

I just realised that the massive increase in German women's conservatism starting in 1990 is because of German reunification doomjak

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

No, not really. East Germany was not particularly more conservative than the West, with the exception of the 1990 election. In fact, as the 90s went on it had a higher vote share for left wing parties, especially the successor of the SED.

It was however, more nationalistic. Leading to the current situation where the far-right is hegemonic there, including the rejection of causes left-liberals hold dear.

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

I think they're referring to West Germany...

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

The annexation of East Germany didn't really change much in West German politics tbh - and the organizations that were strongly supportive of the GDR (DKP, etc.) were always a marginalized group of troublemakers - by 1990 the neoliberals were growing in popularity in the SPD anyway, and the left wing of the Green Party was realizing that the group had become a lost cause. So not much noticeable change there either.

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago

you're responding to the people talking about the GDR and what it lost in reunification as if they're talking about the west. no one here gives a shit about the west.

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[-] plinky@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

What are the questions though?

[-] Gorillatactics@hexbear.net 60 points 9 months ago

Do they make any comment about how they're mapping an already simplistic binary of the American political culture and applying it to countries that have their own political culture?

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[-] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 60 points 9 months ago

Oh God, does being nonbinary make me a centrist now?

[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago

Sorry. Those are the rules. I didn't make them. joker-troll

[-] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Nonbinary people are moving on the (not visible here) z-axis which is anarchism--communism.

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 54 points 9 months ago

Guessing this is mainly due to men reacting to the weakening of the patriarchy. And cishet men reacting to greater queer rights and success. And white men reacting to increasing POC populations

[-] Othello@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

ding ding ding, we talk way too much about social media and algorithms but not enough about the fact that this is simply a reaction to men losing privilege and honestly should be expected.

[-] Barabas@hexbear.net 50 points 9 months ago

Curious how there was a sharp increase in young people identifying with Labour when the Blairites weren't in leadership.

I'm sure that will continue under Starmer clueless

[-] Cherufe@hexbear.net 35 points 9 months ago

Men in the US are becoming the most despicable creature there is: A centrist

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'll just link to what I said in the news mega about needing to counter this properly since it had several responses that will otherwise be lost if i copy it here.

https://hexbear.net/comment/4531230

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[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What was going on in mid-2000s UK? As a lifelong burgerlander I don't have any context to make sense of that inversion.

[-] Barabas@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago

Iraq war with Tony Blair in charge.

[-] BovineUniversity@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

Dudes were rocking

[-] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago
[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago

Seems made up. Also notice how the non-US ones are support for political parties.

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 44 points 9 months ago

Also notice how the non-US ones are support for political parties.

Why is that inaccurate? ROKoreans last year voted in a president that blamed women for the country's problems

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago

idk it just feels like it doesn't tell the whole story. And I don't want to believe it.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's official, conservatism is a maidenless ideology

Shit, no wonder all the right wing guys are obsessed with finding a tradwife. All that shit they say about ruthless sexual competition for limited mating partners (🤢) or whatever is literally true, but only for them, and only because they made it that way by hating women lmao

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[-] HexaSnoot@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

The #Metoo movement was really good for me. I got to be less isolated and more supported

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

hetero is so over

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