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Biden says he'll shut down the border if deal gives him authority
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The first article I linked to shows they do indeed pay payroll taxes. So your personal anecdote does not trump the numbers.
Dang bro, you're right. I mistakenly assumed the article was over at the section where they presented me with other articles to read, since it didn't make sense for them to show me that if the article I was reading continued. So from my perspective the article was basically "They pay taxes, we promise.". They even used language that seemed to close out the article to me before that section by saying "More importantly, the claims about taxes, housing costs and immunizations are false." and not elaborating further.
I wouldn't have even made my first comment had I seen the section below, since they answered exactly the questions I was asking. Haha. I was about to roll in here and ask if we had even looked at the same article, before I gave it a second look. I guess in the end, we hadn't.
This whole ITIN thing is interesting, I've seen the fields for it in the past, but never really thought about it too much since I always assumed it was for people who are in like... a transitional period of their immigration of sorts, not for fellas who aren't supposed to be working. The article that the article linked about ITINs makes it sound like you can even get your tax return with it. That's crazy, but it makes sense.
To add a different anecdotal perspective for you: I live in Texas and work in the construction industry. I work alongside undocumented workers every single day. Jump in the truck "Home Depot Handymen" exist but they are not nearly as prevalent as you seem to believe.
What most of the guys are doing is getting their hands on some form of fake documentation. Employers are obliged to look the other way until it becomes a problem and so the worker is pretty much employed the same as anyone else. They receive benefits, they pay taxes, they work longer hours than anyone else.
Like I said in my comment, I've met very few undocumented immigrants. And realistically, if they can perform a job as a normal person, and pay taxes like a normal person, then even if I have met more, I likely never knew, because why would you go around telling folks about your situation in that case. That'd be a good way to blow your cover. And it's not like I'm going to ask about their experience immigrating, since that's not really a subject that's appropriate to approach with people you don't know.
I live in the middle of nowhere, so my experience is likely vastly different from all y'all's. So it's nice to hear your perspectives. Thanks for sharing.