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It’s astounding. The original GOP was about small government and personal freedoms. Now, they want government involved in restricting those personal freedoms and have added a new layer of corporate protectionism.
The original GOP was about ending slavery and was allied to Karl Marx. Its brief flirtation with libertarianism in the 70s died with Goldwater.
And even then, Goldwater was a right wing neolibertarian. Only concerned with his freedom from the influence of others. Ie his privilege. Completely unconcerned with the ability and freedom of others to do things. Not a true libertarian or good person.
I don’t think the politicians ever actually believed what they were saying. It’s dog whistles and straight up lies all the way down….
Some regular Joe’s on the street might “believe” in the ideals of small government but it’s far easier to say things like family values and small government, words that without policy don’t actually mean anything.
Was it?
Wikipedia says
Or did you mean small government in that they opposed the new deal?
The original GOP was a lie. A putrid clown car of ridiculous evil just waiting for an enormous shit-smelling rapist fraud slathered in greasy orange paint to lead them.
Seriously though, whatever reasonable arguments they may have claimed were rendered moot forty+ years ago.
The wall street putch insists you push That date back another 3 or 4 decades.
The Republican party was never about that. Or at least there's no evidence of that. It was great Republicans punitively freed the slaves as retaliation to the Confederacy. But it is important to understand that they were also fine with allowing the slave states to continue to exist. Only opposed to new slave states. Specifically because it would dilute their power. Which is something. But not champions of freedom or small government. I mean Lincoln was literally about big government and oppressing rights many at the time perceived they had. The rights of states and individuals to own people. Looking back we may agree with the outcome. But it wasn't what it's often portrayed as.
Also, personal freedom is just codewords for privilege. If everyone isn't able to do something, it's a privilege not a freedom. No freedom is "personal"