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[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 26 points 11 months ago

Valid Criticisms:

Max drama deviates from star trek standard format

non episodic / arcs within arcs make it hard to jump in and follow

Everyone talks too fast (lampooned on SNW | LD crossover even!) Deus Ex (Time Travel | AI | Etc.)

MultiLithium gets really explody if you cry hard enough.

Not Valid:

Everything is too (Gender | Sexual Preference | Skin Color) for ST (these people have a vacation fuck planet, and regularly bone holocharacters, get over it we all know if Kirk had a holodeck he would have died in that thing).

Mushroom warp is stupid (fuck you I loved mushroom warp).

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 23 points 11 months ago

You just reminded me of a bingo card Reddit Risa had during Disco S1:

[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

ha! That's excellent. I was not in a position time-wise to watch DSC S1 when it actually aired, so I missed all these shenanigans. In retrospect it's probably the best trek to binge (which I did) since many episodes feel more like parts of a movie instead of being self contained. I'm a fan of all trek, even Enterprise. :D

[-] StraySojourner@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Do people genuinely not like ENT?

[-] BangelaQuirkel@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

The consensus leans to it being not that great.

[-] USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website 4 points 11 months ago

The consensus has definitely changed with time.

Granted, that has happened to literally every iteration of Trek, except TOS.

(and TAS I guess considering that it remains an underrated gem)

[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago

I think it was the first truly disappointing ending for a trek show, and that kinda sours the whole thing a bit.

[-] StraySojourner@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I agree the ending wasn't great.

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I think that was mostly when it came out. (Along with voyager) Over the years it is seemingly more appreciated.

[-] exocrinous@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

I think in their efforts to make the crew less woke than in the TNG era to maintain continuity, they accidentally made the crew less woke than people are in 2024. I'm saying it aged poorly. For example I cite Trip being uncomfortable with polyamoury.

[-] inverted_deflector@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago

Oh man do they. The years since it aired have been kinder to it but hot damn did it get a lot of hate online while it was fresh.

[-] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

From my perspective, I didnt start to appreciate it until the final season and then I wasnt even that bummed because I knew I wouldnt have to hear budget rod Stewart sing over an old Timey map with crew member power point transitions

[-] StraySojourner@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah I think this song was kind of annoying.

I don't know I'm not really into TOS, it was too campy for me. I liked TNG just fine, something about ENT really had like a rough, we're doing real first time exploration kind of vibes to it which I really enjoyed.

[-] inverted_deflector@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago

I laughed at michael is a boys name.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Let's see, which ones could apply to me..."CBS All-Access sucks," "Ugh, another prequel?", "The Orville is real Trek," "Mary Sue." No bingo from me.

Mushroom warp invalidates warp drive as a travel method, that's a fundamental part of the setting here

[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This conversation is too Daystrom for Risa. I'll agree to disagree :old man shakes fist at clouds:

because I can't stop me:

Mushroom warp was "bat shit crazy" to pretty much everyone.

the last ship that tried it disappeared, presumed lost with all hands.

Section 31 probably has the whole story locked in a cabinet next to Mirror Universe Spock's Goatee.

I think there was a whole plot about how using it hurts the thing that is the mushrooms? So like, ethically, that's a no go.

By the end of Voyager, the Federation is beginning to understand how to build trans warp gateways (Borg tech) which is, at least practically, close enough to mushroom warp that it's good enough.

[-] TwoCubed@feddit.de -2 points 11 months ago

Mushroom warp is so dumb, I don't even know where to start. Disco is shit. Wokeness isn't the problem though.

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