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The president giving away military hardware your tax dollars paid for is certainly your business. The fact that Greece is sending other equipment to Ukraine is the best part of this haha.
Imagine a future President Trump sending military hardware for free to Saudi Arabia and Hungary and not mentioning the US getting anything back for it. Is it still not your business?
Even if you like the outcome here the mechanism sucks.
Why would I have a problem with giving surplus to an ally? We already do that with SA, and probably Hungary. Both also American allies.
If we were selling the military hardware to Greece for a fair market price, I'd agree.
But giving it away for free is different. With this power, only the decency of whoever is currently president prevents them from sending billions of dollars of value to basically any country they want, since things like this laundering through Greece can happen. It's not just allies, it's anyone any ally is up for helping.
And those billions in value don't pop out of nowhere, it's tax dollars being given away.
Even if you're not opposed to money being given away to any particular country, you should be a little uncomfortable with giving the Executive Branch the power to give away money like this. It could just as easily be Trump giving hardware to Russia via Turkey. There are no rules preventing it. That is a Congress decision.
First of all, it's not giving away money, it's giving away useless hardware.
Second, the US is getting a lot from this in a strategic sense. This is not about money, it's about weakening one of their biggest adversaries without sending their own soldiers. If Ukraine falls, there is a lot to lose for them and others.
He's not saying this case is wrong, he's saying he's not comfortable with the president having that kind of unilateral power, especially considering what Trump might do with it. I can't say he's wrong. Imagine Trump giving away half the military to whoever books Mars a Lago for a month.