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NASA to lay off more than 500 employees
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This is good actually, US sabotaging its most effective space exploration asset means more time for the others and less probablity of US exerting any real power into space.
NASA is an inseparable part of the US MIC and put a literal fucking SS officer in charge of its flagship program. Absolutely wild to see "leftists" supporting it because NASA gives us fun facts about Saturn's rings between enabling the GPS system the guides Israeli bombs into Palestinian hospitals.
If there is just one thing humanity should pay attention from the century of futurist thought it is that capitalism should be never allowed into space.
Is it that, or that KKKrakas should never be allowed to "explore" anything ever again?
That too, every nation involved in the western "great geographic discoveries" should be banned from having anything that can cross Karman Line.
I think it means more privatization. They will just throw mare money at SpaceX and Lockheed or something
Yes, but NASA is way less likely to waste those money.
You're kind of right, it will (hopefully) force JPL to get its shit together when it comes to project management but more importantly, JPL doesn't make rockets.
Sorry to burst your bubble but unless something major happens, the US is going to be the only one capable of projecting any power into space. China is good at playing catch-up but even their plans talk about a having a domestic fully reusable superheavy lift rocket in the 2040's, which could obviously be accelerated somewhat if circumstances demand but we're not talking about a Moon race type situation here. SpaceX/NASA are the only players here right now.
US literally forgot how to make rockets when their looted nazis died off and spend 10 years having to beg Russia for a lift. China is steadily keeping its announced terms for everything and basically caught up to NASA in 15 years of what NASA spent 70 to do. In the meantime US is defunding their one somewhat working agency and are throwing insane amount of cash to the Musk grift, which might amount to something due to sheer amount of money but is not nearly as effective an any other space agency and is inherently unstable like all other Musk grifts.
Seeing things like OP and believing USA over China is just utter stupidity.
Kinda funny how that works when you do something cool and then just let the brain drain rot it all away. Even the Rovers - Marc Roper is subjected to YouTube vids and science box subscriptions. Had engineering geniuses on tap and instead of training the next gen to refine practices and keep momentum they shed the talent and destroy the records so every subsequent generation has to reinvent the wheel.
Look I'm not saying it's a desirable position but I don't think misrepresenting the situation is helpful either.
The ISS was complete so there was no more use for the shuttle other than bleeding money. Obviously the geopolitical situation allowed for them to use the cheap option, they are capitalists after all. But obviously those 90+ y/o nazi engineers were the real reason.
CNSA has been around for 30 years and NASA for 66. It's also much easier to catch up (which they haven't) than to develop initially especially since they were cooperating until 2011. I wish China was putting more effort into their own version of Starship (Long March 9) but at least as of last year they don't intend to have it ready and fully reusable before 2040.
They're defunding planetary science, not Artemis really. Which is bad obviously but SpaceX is certainly less of a grift than Lockheed Martin or Boeing so I'm not sure where you would put that money instead.
The OP is about JPL, the division actually being affected by the cuts. Again, they don't make rockets. CNSA says 2030 for the moon but it will be on Long March 10 (i.e. not reusable). NASA says 2026 (which admittedly will probably slip to 2027/2028) but it requires Starship to work. If China manages to get there first it would be impressive and a welcome surprise but they would be unable to sustain a presence there (just as the US was) without a fully reusuable superheavy vehicle.
Not germane to your points above but now that there are organizations other than NASA I am not actually sure that layoffs are detrimental (from a tech/development standpoint). Instead of layoffs resulting in the knowledge being lost people can just jump between JPL/SpaceX/Blue Origin and so on. This is one of the easier ways to get knowledge to distribute through the field since our economic system & IP laws discourage meaningful cooperation.
This is nice in theory, but isn't how knowledge transfer of this variety tends to happen in the aerospace industry. Many of those laid off have very specific expertise in niche areas of mechanical and aerospace engineering. Some of that is transferrable, but a lot is specific to things like Mars rovers and planetary science. Tearing those people away from JPL will result in the loss of a ton of institutional knowledge and much of it will not be applicable to the private sector and might just be lost all together.