view the rest of the comments
Ask Lemmy
A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions
Please don't post about US Politics. If you need to do this, try !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world
Rules: (interactive)
1) Be nice and; have fun
Doxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them
2) All posts must end with a '?'
This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?
3) No spam
Please do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.
4) NSFW is okay, within reason
Just remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either !asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world or !asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com.
NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].
5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions.
If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.
Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.
Partnered Communities:
Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu
Yeah, Reddit had its own enshittification cycle for niche topics. At first, it’s just the people who are passionate and/or experienced in the niche interest. Then as it grows, those experts slowly get drowned out by the hobbyists who know juuuust enough to activate the Dunning-Krueger effect. So now you have a bunch of people who are confidently spouting surface-level info (or even outright misinformation) as if it’s gospel. And since the majority of the users also only have a surface-level understanding, that’s what gets upvoted.
On Reddit, it’s less about what you say, and more about how you say it. If a comment is eloquent and makes the reader feel smart for understanding it, it gets upvoted. But highly technical comments will tend to get downvotes, because they make the average reader feel dumb.
I saw it all the time in my area of expertise, audio. There’s a lot of snake oil in the hobbyist audiophile circles. Lots of $1000 cables, $900 isolator boxes, etc… All will claim to make your system sound better. Meanwhile, in the professional world, we’ll use the cheapest $1/foot cable and $5 connectors, because we know they’re durable and they work just as well. We’ll set up million dollar speaker arrays for a concert, and run the signal down $15 cables and $10 isolators. Because we understand the physics of getting an electrical signal from A to B, and know that a more expensive cable won’t do that more efficiently. I can guarantee that Taylor Swift’s Eras tour was run through $1/ft cable. How can I guarantee that? Because I’ve seen the specs of their rig. I know people who worked on it. But good luck going into an audiophile subreddit and saying that; You’ll get downvoted to oblivion and called a troll. Because they don’t go to those subs to listen to actual experts; They just want to go to a place where they can have their surface-level knowledge validated.
There’s an old saying along the lines of “everyone trusts the news until they talk about your job.” Because just like Reddit, the news is targeting the broadest audience possible. And that means they can’t do deep-dives into a topic. They just skirt along the surface, giving just enough context to make viewers feel informed. Because validating the viewer is more important to audience retention than actually informing them.
Gold cables just work better, man.
Totally kidding. I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm not an audio engineer but I have worked with some.
And you're 100% right that on reddit it's more about the "hip vibe" of the post than the content.
So this is probably one of those surface level things that makes people sound smart for agreeing with it, but isn't the entirety of audiophiles just snake oil?
Pretty much. There are some things you can do to help avoid things like interference. But as long as you’re not picking up interference, it’s really just about the quality of your speakers and source.