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[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago

God brought us different, but Colt made us equal, blah-blah-blah.

The difference between trained criminal who started and dictate the situation and an unprepared civilian is just too big. Not to say about how seeing a gun or a sudden movement would trigger an instant attack. You overestimate reflexes of a regular person and their ability to use firearms. Self-defence gun in a bag is more of a risk for an owner and others rather than an affective detterent.

Guns should be. Under the lock. People who casually carry them around just in case aren't a solution but a problem themselves.

[-] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 22 points 9 months ago

People who everyday carry guns, open or concealed, are either paranoid chicken-shit cowards or trigger-happy wannabe vigilante heroes. Neither is a desirable state of mind.

[-] JayDee@lemmy.ml 15 points 9 months ago

There is an increasing portion of the LGBT+ community who concealed carry. I don't blame them, given the current political climate.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

While I don’t blame them and it’s the last group I’d go after, the contention still holds true: a frightened untrained person with a deadly weapon is more likely to cause another problem than to solve the first one

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Gun supporter here: you make a very good point and it's why I think people should have to go through extensive training before being allowed to own one. Way more so than for a drivers license.

[-] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 12 points 9 months ago

Or women defending themselves from stalkers or absuive exes. Or LGBTQ people defending themselves from much, much higher rates of assault than average. I know it's easy to get sucked into the us-vs-them mentality, but please remember there are plenty of people out there who have damn good reasons to carry.

[-] GooseFinger@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Sir, this is Lemmy. All we do here is call gun owners small-wienered piss baby cowards. Nuanced discussion is allowed for everything else, but the moment you imply that guns aren't evil machines only used for crime, you're a brain dead Christian devout who gets off to school shootings and cowboy fantasies.

[-] TheWeirdestCunt@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

It’s not even just guns, in the UK people who carry knives around are more likely to be stabbed than people who don’t carry them. That’s why there are so many laws about when you’re allowed to have one with you even if you need it for work.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Sounds like a correlation/causation error to me

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

And having a pilots license makes you more unsafe when you ride on a plane

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

That one Alaska pilot had to go and ruin it for everyone.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Self-defence gun in a bag is more of a risk for an owner and others rather than an affective detterent.

You missed the obvious solution:

You need a sniper covering your position whenever you are in public.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And every sniper has a sniper covering their back.

[-] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago

Makes perfect sense. Pass laws forcing law abiding citizens to go unarmed while criminals who don’t abide by those same laws can freely ignore them and continue to use firearms on their law abiding victims. Make sure you include some carve outs so politicians and elites can carry or have access to firearms in case the poors get uppity and BOOM problem solved!

Brilliant, did you think that up all by yourself?

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Do you know how the last japanese PM died?

[-] ZeroTHM@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago
[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe -1 points 9 months ago

Literally

Get fucked, Shinzo Abe's racist and sexist ghost, I know you're reading this.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Without concealed carrying a firearm? ^/s^

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