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Oh shit they've got him.

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[-] aaro@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I can't find anything on the neo-nazi thing in particular (I don't doubt it), but he's certainly fash, no doubt. I'm just suggesting that he's anti-immigration fash standing in opposition to pro-assimilation fash. The only reason anti-immigration seems to be such an anti-state position in Russia is because Putin has correctly read that Russia has a population crisis and is seeking to remedy that by turning foreigners into Russians. Navalny doesn't seem more or less fascist than Putin, he just seems to have a different idea as to what to do with the Other. Which is I guess a reason to bring the 🦀s out, but no more or less so than when Putin kicks it, besides that Putin is a very expedient thorn in international-community-1international-community-2's side.

The one biggest reason I could imagine celebrating Navalny's death is that he is the enemy of our enemy's enemy (Navalny/The West/Putin). Besides that, he's just as fash as a lot of folks who we critically support due to their relation to the West, like Lukashenko and Assad.

[-] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 44 points 9 months ago

Navalny was the West's chosen comprador, in the vanishingly unlikely event a Western coup was pulled off and he was installed to power he would have enthusiastically opened Russia's veins the way Yeltsin did. And if that caused conditions to fall back to the level they were at in the 90s, he would have been responsible for literally millions of premature deaths, as well as completely destroying a crucial actor in the emerging multipolar world. All of this on top of his FAR more vocal hatred for (and calls to exterminate) minorities. Putin is a cold-blooded bureaucrat, he doesn't deal in inflammatory racist rhetoric because it's destabilizing.

[-] aaro@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

nuance and extended discussion notwithstanding, fuck Navalny and RIP BOZO with not an ounce of reservation

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

he's just as fash as a lot of folks who we critically support due to their relation to the West, like Lukashenko and Assad.

Dayum, why you roastin' them like that? I understand why Putin's fash, but why them too?

[-] aaro@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

“The Jews managed to force the world to remember the Holocaust,” Lukashenko declared. “The entire world grovels before them and gives in to them. They are afraid to say a single word out of place.”

“The history of Germany is a copy of the history of Belarus. Germany was raised from ruins thanks to firm authority and not everything connected with that well-known figure Hitler was bad. German order evolved over the centuries and attained its peak under Hitler. This corresponds with our understanding of a presidential republic and the role of a president in it,” Lukashenko said in 1995, perhaps anticipating that he would still be in power more than a quarter of century later.

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~~I might actually be flat-out wrong about Assad tho,~~ maybe Erdogan is a better example

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago

Nah assad recently decided to do "was it really 6 millions" shit. Luka is just an idiot, i always see this quote from the 90s, but not something weird after, idk why (did he get better or just start masking)

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago

My impression of Assad was that the West, according to him, uses Hitler and the killed Jews as a rationale to crush any foreign policy enemies who they compare to the former and its atrocities....

[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago

Lukashenko is a piece of shit

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago

Why? To me, at his very worst, he's less worse than Putin....

[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago

? Putin is also a piece of shit.

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

It's a matter of weighing the shit to see which one is greater magnitude, not a matter of if it's shit or not

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

Well, what has Lukashenk's done worse than Putin, in terms of policy?

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

I couldn't tell ya, I was just articulating what I thought the other person was trying to say

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