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Many dishwashers will clean all of that fine, in my experience. The annoying part is the cups or bowls that may fill with water, just make sure they’re upside down.
As far as scraping or rinsing things…. Nah. Haven’t done it since I worked in food service and saw what dishwashers could do. Some stuff needs scraped, sure, but most will come off under the detergent and hot water.
People don't know how to use dishwashers. What's the point of using a dishwasher if you're going to clean the dishes beforehand…
I see you’ve never spent extended periods of time with shitty dishwashers and hard water
I have hard water, there's salt and a setting depending on hardness.
Generic detergent and rinse aid and I never have dirty dishes.
Lemi Shine works great with my water drawn from limestone.
Oh come on you don’t need salt for hard water. Just raise the temperature a bit.
People just use salt on sidewalks because heating them isn’t feasible. But in the kitchen, it’s much easier to eliminate hard water but just warming things up.
Growing up or broke a lot because of hard water, it would just slowly stop getting stuff off the dishes une you pre rinsed.
I think the situation is better now, my dishwasher surprises me with how effective it is.
At a certain point it stops being a dishwasher and works better as a drying rack. It's the sorta shitty dishwashers that bother me most where I can still save time by partially processing the dishes but somehow like 1/5 of them come out worse than how they went in.
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That's presumptuous. Some dishwashers are legit trash that wouldn't even hold water if not for 20 years of getting the landlord white paint treatment. Probably some of the sorta working ones when I was younger could have done better with proper detergent habits but I know how to use them now and still run into it
If the dishwasher is broken, then yes obviously it won't work.
It's not necessarily washing them first, but I do get the "chunks" out. As the only person in the house who remembers that the food doesn't just magically disappear, and eventually has to clean the filter, I prefer to do the cleaning before the food gets to the filter. Everyone else, on the other hand, seems perfectly content to put a half-full bowl of spaghetti in the dishwasher.
Rinsing them well is the path of pain only if the water is too hot.
Galaxy brain right here
Wiping off food debris =\= "cleaning the dishes"
I agree but a silicone scraper is plenty! Water need not be wasted.