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r/politics • 13.3k Michigan governor says not voting for Biden over Gaza war "supports second Trump term" • [Imagine what the top comment is.] (hexbear.net)

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 51 points 10 months ago

Last year I didn't have and I couldn't have even conceived that "Trump is worse than the genocide and ethnic cleansing caused by and being caused by Biden right now" on my 2024 Presidential Bingo Card but here we are.

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[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 38 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Hi yes here it is: Biden is the US president while Trump is not. Glad I could help

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

Trump was president and instigated shit in Israel like moving the embassy in Jerusalem. The sad fact is that the US government decided years ago that this is the path for Israel/Palestine. It’s larger than either of these two clowns who IMO would both have done the same thing, although one can speculate that Biden is doing it more competently, or something…

The only improvement with Trump would be his likely reduction/withdrawal of support from Ukraine. But that would be offset, possibly to a greater degree, by more extreme agitation against China, compared with Biden.

Both Biden and Trump serve the interests of American imperialism, they merely have different tactics.

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago

The only improvement with Trump would be his likely reduction/withdrawal of support from Ukraine. But that would be offset, possibly to a greater degree, by more extreme agitation against China, compared with Biden.

Disagree. One, I don’t think Trump is more extreme on China than Biden. Trump’s louder about China than Biden, but Biden has much more competently done the same shit Trump wanted to do regarding China. Do you feel like we’re further from war with China than we were before Biden took office? I sure don’t.

Two, at least Trump has opposition. He’s so outwardly gross and annoying that he makes the libs take our side. I genuinely felt much safer with Trump in power than Biden, because at least when Trump did evil shit people tried to stop it. When Trump did the Muslim ban people shut down airports, if Biden did the same they’d be telling us how actually he had to do it for national security and Trump would’ve done it worse.

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

Do you feel like we’re further from war with China than we were before Biden took office? I sure don’t.

Both Biden and Trump want war with China. But only the latter wants it right now, the former is merely setting up the pieces in Ukraine and west Asia. I mean I can only speculate but I think Trump would have taken concrete real steps toward a more open conflict with China if he was reelected in 2020. Maybe we would have traded Ukraine for Taiwan. Idk. But acting like these two scenarios are the same because they are both anti-China is reductive, imo.

Muslim ban

I guess. It was never going to work out legally. It was just one of Trumps many smoke and mirrors to distract from the other things he was doing. Biden achieves the same result by staying quiet.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago

With Trump in office libs will be forced to pretend to care about genocide

Unless you want to claim libs will support Trump's Isreal policy? :)

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

This is my big thing and why I think Biden is in fact the greater of two evils. At least Trump makes the libs pretend to be on our side.

[-] Swoosegoose@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago

Your defense of Biden is that he's as bad as Trump?

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[-] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago

Thank God Biden is in power and the settlements in the West Bank have now been declared illegal.

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Every liberal speaks in the same condescending way.

Peanut gallery? Peanut gallery is the name for... checks notes the cheap seats in theatre for the poorer rowdy audience members...

...with possible racist origin in the United States' segregated South as a synonym for the back seats or upper balcony mostly reserved for Black people and immigrants...

Mr Biden is that you?

EDIT: On the topic of the ever condescending 'checks notes', the Financial Times of course loves it, with their most recent instance of it being "Are investors prepared for checks notes nuclear war in space?"

Seriously.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Bruh the genocide is happening right now under Biden. This has nothing to do with Trump. A vote for Biden is a vote for genocide. That's all there is to it. Go support genocide if you want I guess just admit that is what you're supporting. Don't lie to yourself about it.