Spicy take, but Captain Kirk sucks (hexbear.net)

submitted 8 months ago by Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

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Kirk and Spock both kind of suck ngl, everyones allways about Spock and Kirk but I'm over here relating to the grumpy doctor way more.

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[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 27 points 8 months ago

I hate the way the oogles the women on the Enterprise. Like he's stop and turn when a younger crew member walks past him, which feels really creepy in 2024.

[-] Sopje@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago

Yes Kirk and McCoy are super icky around women. Completely ruined the series for me.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago

if you think that was bad you should see public life in the 60s

[-] Sopje@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

I’d rather not. To be honest this comment rubs me the wrong way a little. I didn’t live in the 60s but I’ve been sexually assaulted more than once as a kid and as an adult and I feel like I should be able to complain about a series that shows the same behaviour as the men who assaulted me.

Telling me that in the past things were way worse does not change the fact that I’m heavily traumatised, in fact it makes me feel much worse.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago

there's some mismatch when some people are talking about star trek as entertainment product and others star trek as historical artifact

i'm certainly not defending anything, the show is radical on nationality and race but the gender politics fall off a cliff other than Uhura being 3rd in command (which is never paid off, in practice it was just a detail for people who knew about US navy ranks) and the cultural context of the miniskirt in womens' lib at the time.