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I find the """man up""" school of thought generally works for me when faced w a tough situation but 97% of the time it's presented as an obnoxious show of bravado. What are better ways to phrase this? (lemmy.world)

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like, if i'm feeling bad but force myself to do something, i usually feel better. how to maintain the usefulness of this advice without presenting it as 'fuck your feelings', in that usual arrogant right wing sort of way

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[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 9 months ago

"You'll feel better once you go through" IMO fits rather well what OP is asking for. Specially for self-advice.

[mini-rant] People, stop assuming random orthogonal shit into the left-right axis. Seriously.

I can get why "man up" would be typically right-winger due to the sex-based stereotypes. ("Rather curiously" not mentioned by anyone here, right?) However, doing it directly with the "fuck your feelings" is stupid. [/mini-rant]

[-] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

I'm confused what you mean by your mini-rant. Are you asserting that "fuck your feelings" and "man up" are not right wing coded, but equally likely to come from a leftist? I think theoretically that's maybe true but anecdotally that language does tend to be used by the right and not so much by the left, in my experience

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I’m confused what you mean by your mini-rant. Are you asserting that “fuck your feelings” and “man up” are not right wing coded, but equally likely to come from a leftist?

That's an excellent example of what I said just yesterday about sealioning in Reddit: "in Reddit for example your typical sea lion says “I don’t understand, [insert question making a straw man of your proposition]? I’m so confused…”

Drop off the sealion if you feel entitled to a serious answer.

[-] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

I can assure you that my question was genuine.

I've seen a lot of discussion about sealioning on Lemmy and reddit over the years, and it's never made much sense to me. If I were a right winger trying to discredit your point, it doesn't seem like a good tactic to ask (misleading) clarifying questions. Any decent debater would use those questions to further educate potential readers on the specifics of their argument/ideology.

That being said, I would still appreciate a clarification.

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