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School is just one simplification after the other (sh.itjust.works)

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[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee -2 points 8 months ago

Yes, I am the kind of person who gets upset when teachers pretend things don't exist and then gaslight students who know those things do exist and want to ask about them.

You sound like the kind of person who thinks it's wokeism to take issue with saying Columbus discovered the Americas when he A) Never landed on them, B) Didn't even think it was the Americas himself and went to his death bed swearing it was Indonesia, and C) WAS PRECEDED BY LITERAL MILLIONS OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES WHO HAD BEEN LIVING THERE FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

[-] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago

I agree this to some extent. I had a teacher who said conduction(thermal) does not happen in liquids and gases. Even according to textbook, fluids does convection and radiation but no mention of conduction, and there was an excersise question:

Conduction occurs in _______.

a) Solids b)Liquids c)Gases d) All of the above

The answer in teacher's manual was (a) and I(and my friend) disagreed on that and argued. The teacher actually belived it happens only in solids and she was against me. I even wrote the "wrong" answer as per teacher on exam and lost 1 mark in that exam. And finally we got redirected to a senior teacher who said I was correct but the manual for teachers said so because they thought that shoul be introduced in higher classes only. It was pretty unacceptable to me as they don't NEED to say the wrong answer and they can simply say conduction occurs in fluids as well. It bought more problem than what it would have been if real answer was given. Even the teacher belived fluids don't conduct and and spread the misconception to students(which was reinforced by her when we argued).

I belive there should be a small mention of theese things for 1) The sake of avoiding misconception AND 2) For enhancing the curiosity of the students.

A single sentence mentioning of complex numbers in 10th grade by my favourite Math teacher bought Great curiosity in me.

One more thing to add, I have never seen it mentioned that conduction occurs in fluids explicitly in later classes but it was kind of assumed everyone knows. I wonder if there are students in my age who still belive It doesn't.

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

WAS PRECEDED BY LITERAL MILLIONS OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES WHO HAD BEEN LIVING THERE FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

That's a very pedantic way to look at it. When teachers talk about the discovery of the Americas, there's an obvious implied "by the Europeans, for the purpose of permanent settlement" attached to it. Answering the question "who first visited Japan?" with "The Japanese" is completely useless, as an analogue.

Now, if you were to talk about how the Scandinavians settled bits of Canada at least 500 years before Columbus was born, that'd be much more interesting.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Using the word discovered erases the fact that the indigenous peoples were there first, by thousands of years, and that they're all people of equal humanity to columbus.

Trying to insist that genoese serial child rapist is the discoverer of jack shit is literally telling indigenous folks "our bottom of the grease barrel worst still count more than your most important."

As for the norse, is it any wonder everyone forgets about them when even they forgot about it in the intervening centuries. They literally thought the chick who lead the second expedition was a fictional character meant to represent how batshit insane pagans were before her cool younger brother convinced everyone to be nice and christian instead.

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

were there first, by thousands of years, and that they’re all people of equal humanity to columbus.

But they're not the cultural head of the current society, so that's irrelevant.

Trying to insist that genoese serial child rapist is the discoverer of jack shit is literally telling indigenous folks “our bottom of the grease barrel worst still count more than your most important.”

Fallacy, appeal to emotion. The only thing it tells is exactly what it tells - an expedition organized by Columbus was the first European voyage to reach the Americas with the intention of permanent settlement.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

Yeah sure keep stanning the child rapist buddy, maybe try this line around your debate club coach so they can remind you what the fallacy fallacy is you contrarian walnut.

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Fallacy fallacy doesn't apply, you pedantic child, as I've described why your line of argument is invalid. Maybe at least read the wikipedia article in its entirety before pretending to know what you're talking about.