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[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 8 months ago

I watched the video. I watched it again here. The problem for me is that Malcom X is talking about black folk. He is talking about their block and advocating for essentially self sacrifice at the hands of his "worse option" to make a point. I am not black. Nor am I queer. Nor am I a woman. I am not a target. It is not my sacrifice to give. It is not within my right I believe to tell someone who will suffer that it's necessary to make a point when I know for a fact that I will not suffer. I know for a fact that I wouldn't be a target. I cannot make that decision in good conscious because I am not the one who will pay that price.

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 43 points 8 months ago

How can you honestly be this dense? We've got a dozen people here, all telling you the same thing, and you refuse to get your head out of your own ass and listen to them. VOTING WILL NOT SAVE ANYONE. VOTING ONLY PROVIDES LEGITIMACY TO THIS CORRUPT AND BROKEN SYSTEM THAT HAS GOTTEN THIS BAD DUE TO THIS KIND OF COMPLACENCY. YOU ARE NOT A HERO FOR VOTING FOR A GENOCIDAL WAR CRIMINAL, EVEN IF HE IS GOING UP AGAINST ANOTHER GENOCIDAL WAR CRIMINAL. YOUR VOTE WILL CHANGE NOTHING, AND WILL DO NOTHING EXCEPT STROKE YOUR SMUG EGO. Fuck you.

[-] aesc@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 8 months ago

Literally since the founding of the country we’ve never had 50% or more turnout. People who abstain from voting have been the majority in this country this whole time. If not voting fixed a broken system why isn’t it fixed if the majority already don’t vote?

[-] Are_Euclidding_Me@hexbear.net 36 points 8 months ago

Do you ever think about the reasons why voter turnout is so low here? Consider, by comparison, Cuba, which has over 90% voter turnout. What is different there to here? Why do so many more people (percentage-wise) vote in Cuba than in the US?

Instead of spending your time in here getting insulted (which is what is going to happen if you keep commenting in this thread), you might instead go research voting in Cuba. Try to answer for yourself why their voter turnout is so high. Then ask yourself if we here in the US can learn something from the way Cuba does politics.

Or you can stay here and get dunked on. You do you.

[-] aesc@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 8 months ago

Nice of you to acknowledge that I’m mostly being insulted and dunked on, but if that was going to stop me from commenting why would I even use Lemmy, or any social media?

Voting in Cuba is pointless for national elections. It’s a one-party state so each candidate runs unopposed in their district. One-party states are bad. There is nothing the U.S. can learn from voting in Cuba, it is one of the least democratic countries in Latin America.

Voter turnout has been 88% or better in Australia since 1925. Why didn’t you list them as an example? Voter turnout is good there because voters are fined a few hundred dollars for not voting. They have a mandatory voting law. That could increase voter turnout in the United States, but if it didn’t come with rules that employers must give their employees time to vote, and states must have fair standards for registering to vote, then it would just be fining poor people for being poor.

Other things the United States could do to increase voter turnout: make Election Day on the weekend instead of a Tuesday, which was selected so farmers traveling by horse and buggy could get to the polls. We don’t have that many farmers anymore, much less ones that travel by horse and buggy. That’s really the only rule at the federal level on how states run elections, other rules to increase voter turnout would be implemented by individual states. Early voting, mail-in voting, the ability to register to vote when you’re interacting with a state office anyway, like when you get a driver’s license, or pay your taxes. Letting people vote after they’ve served their prison sentence. Letting people vote while serving their prison sentence. &c.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 41 points 8 months ago

Nice of you to acknowledge that I’m mostly being insulted and dunked on, but if that was going to stop me from commenting why would I even use Lemmy, or any social media?

New tagline dropped lmao.

Anyways you're wrong and you know it, but you pretend otherwise because you're a pervert for debating. Go choke on a brick of shit.

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

New tagline dropped lmao.

Seconded, please mods

[-] Are_Euclidding_Me@hexbear.net 38 points 8 months ago

Voting in Cuba is pointless for national elections. It’s a one-party state so each candidate runs unopposed in their district. One-party states are bad. There is nothing the U.S. can learn from voting in Cuba, it is one of the least democratic countries in Latin America.

Ok, thanks for telling me who you are! I can now comfortably join the group of people telling you to fuck off back to reddit.

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[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 31 points 8 months ago

Man, you can't even name the elephant in the room filling the room with elephant shit: the electoral college makes voting for president outside of like 6 states entirely pointless, which would obviously have an effect on voter turnout. People tend to not want to waste their time voting in a sham election where the results are already decided. You've wasted your time in Hexbear posting a bunch of garbage for what? So people living in New York, Alabama, California, Arkansas, Massachusetts, and Texas can be convinced to check Biden's name as if we don't already know who will win those states.

[-] aesc@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 8 months ago

"Hexbear has had a track record of antisocial users who will do anything to get offended at anyone, for any reason." --Hexbear front page

OK, that explains a lot.

I left out abolishing the Electoral College because that would require a Constitutional amendment, which is much more difficult to do than get a bill through Congress, or a state bill through state congress, which is all those other solutions would require. Amending the Constitution is also a possible solution for any political problem in the United States, I thought it went without saying.

[-] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 8 months ago

Fuck the Constitution, it was written by cracker slaveowners seeking to enrich themselves and create a cracker ethnostate.

I think the US needs to be dismantled and destroyed entirely. No names, monuments, or anything reminiscent of the US needs to be completely destroyed and thrown in the dustbin of history and it's physical lands returned to its original owners, because it's what it deserves, having it's entire history bathed in the blood of colonized people.

That's the only thing that'll make this right.

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 8 months ago
[-] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 8 months ago

I'mma stay talkin that TALK 🗣️

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

Lmao the front page is quoting dweebs like you crying for civility because we don't tolerate your bullshit. The quote is mocking you lol. The only anti-social user here is you, and harsh words are the least that you deserve.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 28 points 8 months ago

Voting in Cuba is pointless for national elections. It’s a one-party state so each candidate runs unopposed in their district. One-party states are bad. There is nothing the U.S. can learn from voting in Cuba, it is one of the least democratic countries in Latin America.

How can you just sit there and type "Cuba has elections where only one person is allowed to run for each office"? It's such a stupid thing to say, as though any country would willingly make an exhibition of its own falseness like that. You would do well to actually research Cuba instead of relying on information you got through cultural osmosis from tar-mongers in Miami. In Cuba, you run as a de-facto independent against everyone else, and indeed that includes challenging incumbents. I hope you weren't the same person pretending to be a communist elsewhere in the thread while spreading the most moronic misinformation about a country you've clearly never researched. Like, you know that the US, the entity that you've admitted was fascist as shit just earlier, has been slandering Cuba for close to a century now, right?

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 24 points 8 months ago

One-party states are bad.

I'd rather have one workers' party than two capitalist parties.

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