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My plan is to crumble with it.
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Current predictions by scientist at MIT put collapse of global civilisation at around the mid to late 2040s, so if you won't be retiring before then it'd better to just spend that money enjoying life while you can. Because even if global society doesn't implode (big if) then retirement age will rise to the point you never get to retire anyway.
There's been a similar prediction every decade for the last century. We're still chugging along
you can't ignore the fact things are getting worse and nobody is doing anything about them
That's what they said then too
Because things were getting worse. And they're still getting worse. And they will continue to get worse. We have charts and graphs and studies for a lot of different things showing things were getting worse, and have only continued to do so. Like the cost of living didn't just steadily go up with a steady inflation. It's been a curve. And then the last few years fucked us pretty bad.
Climate change. Still getting hotter. Still not slowing down enough. Some places are doing their parts, but places like here in the US, we aren't doing nearly enough. And a lot of the stuff we are doing ends up on backfiring because of capitalism. For instance, California banned the single use plastic bags. But a lot of reusable bags are plastic. The law is the bag needs to be a certain thickness and be advertised as reusable... So places just made thicker bags. And then people still throw them away. So each bag is now more plastic than before.
So yes. They gave us a warning. Things got worse.
So we got a second warning. Things still got worse.
Then rather than shutting up as you would prefer, they gave us another warning. Still getting worse.
I agree with all of that, there's no need to claim that I'd prefer people "shut up". Yes, things will keep getting worse, probably for quite a while. Probably a serious percentage of people will die avoidable deaths. But I sincerely doubt society will crumble. It's been through worse. Society didn't crumble in the black plague, when two thirds of the population died a horrible death. It will be a shittier life than we were used to last century, but not the apocalypse, and people will still grow old, and need to retire.
Facts and science don't deal in better/worse terms.
Worse for humans? which humans? Also define worse, do we measure that in quality of life? How do you define quality of life?
The only thing I will strongly agree with is the eventual collapse of capitalism as we know it because it's unsustainable, but who cares the people who care will be dead and the people who exist in it won't know any difference. I think we're going to endure major changes between the current "countries" over the next few centuries but humans will probably still be around.
And if you were referring to the actual planet getting worse because of climate change, no matter what happens the earth will be fine regardless. The earth deals in WAY longer timescales than us pussy short term humans. It's proven resilient and been through ice ages, major celestial events/collisions, supervolcanos and life always prevails over time even if humans perish in the short term. Humans are pretty shit to be fair, we're parasites.
So again, what do you mean by worse? It's subjective and dependent on timescales.