Ooohh, ty, ofc I'm stupid, I didn't even realise I was replying in gnome community, my bad, def a dickish move, lul.

I might have also failed to pick up on how much more ppl complain about gnome tho, but its probably true. I assume bcs its the most popular DE, especially since the long Ubuntu era, and has also gone through bigger changes, but also I fell like gnome was in its early age instantly more usable than KDE (which is a bit older iirc), or at least more customisable out of the box (sure, no widgets, but back then they were little more than ornaments).