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US asked China and India for help to prevent Russia from carrying out a nuclear strike in 2022, report says (www.businessinsider.com)

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[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

September 21, 2022 ... In an address to Russians Putin announced he would call up 300,000 reservists to fight in Ukraine and backed a plan to annex parts of the country, hinting to the West he was prepared to use nuclear weapons to defend Russia. "If the territorial integrity of our country is threatened, we will use all available means to protect our people - this is not a bluff," Putin said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/exclusive-nato-chief-says-putins-ukraine-escalation-dangerous-reckless-2022-09-21/

"I would like to remind those who make such statements about Russia that our country also possesses various means of destruction, and in some cases they are more modern than those of NATO countries. When the territorial integrity of our country is threatened, we, of course, will use all the means at our disposal to protect Russia and our people. This is not a bluff. And those who try to blackmail us with nuclear weapons should know that the weathervane can turn and point towards them."

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-president-vladimir-putin-announces-partial-mobilisation-2022-09-21/

And video:

https://youtu.be/e8gZUQMqDAI?t=91

[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Removed, racism against Russians is still racism.

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[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

It's sad that you have to add the /s

[+] doublejay1999@lemmy.world -23 points 8 months ago

No good mate . No nuclear threat, unless attacked with nuclear weapons. This is literally everyone stance on nukes - apart from maybe the Norks .

‘We will use any means necessary to defend our people …blah blah’. Is the most generic war time rhetoric going.

Read it without bias.

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No nuclear threat, unless attacked with nuclear weapons.

No. Their official position is this:

According to a Russian military doctrine stated in 2010, nuclear weapons could be used by Russia "in response to the use of nuclear and other types of weapons of mass destruction against it or its allies, and also in case of aggression against Russia with the use of conventional weapons when the very existence of the state is threatened". Most military analysts believe that, in this case, Russia would pursue an 'escalate to de-escalate' strategy, initiating limited nuclear exchange to bring adversaries to the negotiating table. Russia will also threaten nuclear conflict to discourage initial escalation of any major conventional conflict.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#Nuclear_weapons_in_Russian_military_doctrine

They annexed Eastern Ukraine, said it was part of Russia, then threatened "all means at our disposal" if anyone threatened Russia's territorial integrity. Russia including Eastern Ukraine (and Crimea). Ie. if Ukraine made too many gains in Eastern Ukraine, they were threatening a nuclear strike.

This isn't a secret. As mentioned above, it's been official doctrine for years now and they keep making these threats. Wikipedia has a summary of some of them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_risk_during_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

For example:

Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, now deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, said that some Ukrainian military commanders were considering hitting missile launch sites inside Russia with Western-supplied long-range missiles. He did not name the commanders or disclose more details of the alleged plan and there was no immediate reaction from Ukraine to his threat. "What does this mean? It means only one thing – they risk running into the action of paragraph 19 of the fundamentals of Russia's state policy in the field of nuclear deterrence," Medvedev wrote on the Telegram messaging app. "This should be remembered," Medvedev said. Paragraph nineteen of Russia's 2020 nuclear doctrine sets out the conditions under which a Russian president would consider using a nuclear weapon: broadly as a response to an attack using nuclear or other weapons of mass destruction, or to the use of conventional weapons against Russia "when the very existence of the state is put under threat." Medvedev made specific mention of point "g" of paragraph nineteen which deals with the nuclear response to a conventional weapons attack.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-medvedev-warns-nuclear-response-if-ukraine-hits-missile-launch-sites-2024-01-11/

These are widely understood as nuclear threats in Russian media and by Russian audiences.

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