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It's very hard for me to wrap my head around the DPRK, PRC, Vietnam, Cuba, etc., being more democratic and free than the U.S. (hexbear.net)

submitted 8 months ago by allthetimesivedied@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

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I’m not skeptical per se. I’ve just been propagandized so fucking much—I grew up watching those propagandocumentaries on the National Geographic Channel about the DPRK, etc., fr that was what I watched instead of cartoons lol.

Pretend I’m a lib who you’re trying to convince, or something. In addition to calming this feeling in my gut like something isn’t making sense, I want to be able to make this argument, myself.

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[-] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 36 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

AES countries are not utopias and are in some cases more reactionary on certain issues than socdem capitalist countries. These are real socialist projects and they are imperfect just like every other system. However, they are making strides towards socialism. Cuba has LGBT+ rights enshrined in the constitution, something the "democratic" U.S. could only dream of.

Oh yeah healthcare is lightyears better in these countries than the old imperial U.S. too.

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 30 points 8 months ago

Cuba’s lgbt rights are very impressive when the rest of the Caribbean and Central American left are behind on those issues. My country’s left wing is considered radical for allowing gays to get married and even that’s a polarizing issue among their members.