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"No one is immune to propaganda" does not equal "everyone is equally scrupulous when confronted with propaganda" (hexbear.net)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

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Propaganda doesn't totally rob people of ~~agency~~ free will (more accurate term), if it did this site wouldn't exist. People do have the capacity to develop critical thinking, skepticism, and a basic curiosity about the world that allow them to develop some resistance to propaganda.

You can hold people accountable for failing to even attempt to do this.

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[-] plinky@hexbear.net 29 points 8 months ago

you have material life dice rolls to start even asking questions shrug-outta-hecks

Just as mass propaganda of "everything is going great" hits a wall in the bottom part of society, "the everything is shit" hits similar wall in the owning part of society.

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago

"the everything is shit" hits similar wall in the owning part of society.

We live in the information age. There's no excuse for this. Mfers need to google things.

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I mean if you earn 200 k a year, how likely are you to even start asking questions? why would you start asking them, isntead of thinking others are lazy bums.

And that's also ignoring following filter: is my salary (for example cocoa beans importer) built on child labor in ghana? You lose 95 % percent dice roll on first entry, another 80 percent on second one. Lots easier to internalise of "them being over there and i receive my salary over here" than to follow through

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago

Maybe I'm just different from most people, but my family was fairly well off and as a teenager I still was curious how everyone else was doing. How do we "stack up"? That seems like a fairly common thing.

I'm a white guy, but I still understand systemic racism is an issue 🤷 not really an excuse not to. People choose to ignore it. Poor people understand things are better for rich fucks, and they refuse to understand things are bad for poor people. The wall you face when propagandizing poor people is the facts, with rich people it's their own willful ignorance.

[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

i grew up poor and i didn't realize people were richer than me because i never interacted with them. i just accepted life was bad and it was for everyone.

only until i got to college i understood that i had been seriously fucked for my entire childhood and how much better your life is made just by having money.