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[-] Rinox@feddit.it 1 points 8 months ago

I didn't say that all revolutions are bad. It's usually a mixed bag, some good, some bad.

What I was saying is that violent revolutions and civil wars, like all wars, usually bring death, destruction and poverty for the normal everyday people. So if you are expecting better living conditions right after a revolution, you are either so poor that anything is better or you better be on the short list of elites that will get to grab power and rebuild the country, otherwise you are going to suffer. Maybe your kids will be better off... Maybe.

And yes, there are also independence wars, but those are different from civil wars. The US is independent, Americans don't consider themselves being occupied by a foreign entity.

[-] frippa@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

There are cases in which the status quo kills way more in the long term than a revolution would in the short term, I agree with you that a war, expecially a civil war fought expecially on national soil brings misery and destruction to the nation, but it is sometimes a necessary evil in the short term in order to avoid a way bigger evil in the long run. To make another Italian example, the fascist regime killed hundreds of thousands of people, 120.000 innocents died only in Lybia during the deportation of the cyrenaican people, that's less than all of the deaths in the Italian Civil War!

didn't say that all revolutions are bad. It's usually a mixed bag, some good, some bad

I think we agree on this one, I thought you meant revolution was inherently evil. Better to clarify and argument further nevertheless, For posterity. Peace.

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