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[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 36 points 8 months ago

We don’t need any humans.

Who gets to decide which humans get to reproduce and who doesn’t?

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago
[-] machinaeZER0@lemm.ee 14 points 8 months ago
[-] idunnololz@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

I hope he's not fr*nch

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Well, an aptitude test sure wouldn't hurt.

The truth is, once we outgrow the religious imperative to just crank out babies like it's a contest, and make it legal and easy for anyone to have sex without worrying about impregnation, then there would be little need to regulate reproduction.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

So... You're a eugenicist..

[-] STOMPYI@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Wow. Which one of you asshats downvotes this?

[-] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 13 points 8 months ago
[-] Player2@lemm.ee -5 points 8 months ago

It's actually called rational thought instead of reproducing like a virus

[-] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 10 points 8 months ago

Eugenics is some evil bullshit. We figured this out around 1935-1945.

Bodily autonomy for all.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

The ones who would fail a test to determine if they are mentally prepared for the responsibility of raising a child.

The ones who think that determining if someone would make a good parent (which is done to everyone with wants to adopt) is the same thing as eugenics.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social -1 points 8 months ago

The literal eugenics??

[-] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

It's not really about who gets to reproduce, it's about infant mortality.

Pre-1900 there were just around a billion people, yet it was very common to have 7-10 children. Most didn't make it to reproductive age, so the population wasn't growing at that same rate.

Now infant mortality is low, very low in developed countries, yet it is still common to have 4-6 children. Nearly all of whom will reproduce.

Realisticly, no one needs more than one children. Two would be generous. More than two is excessive.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

That's certainly not going to be abused in horrific ways.

[-] Blueberrydreamer@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 8 months ago

It doesn't need to be forced. All that's needed is education and easy access to birth control. There's a reason birthrates are declining in virtually all developed countries. When given a real, educated choice, the vast majority of women choose to have fewer children.

[-] deafboy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

no one needs more than one children

So... this is how it ends. Some predicted a virus, a climate change related natural disaster or an asteroid. But what finally got us, was some bad math.

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
  1. Enshrine medical rights for women's bodies that allows them to abort pregnancy, and allows doctors to make that decision for them in case of early complication leading to emergency (a conscious woman not at risk would never be forced to accept treatment that would endanger a viable fetus, but a nonviable fetus would never lead to undue risks in a more ideal world than what we live in).

  2. We'll start with a democratic system of laws with a philosophy of marginal satisfaction offset by an aversion to suffering taking priority, a good first step would be to simply incentivize education and remaining childless, perhaps with tax credits or guaranteed income welfare.

  3. Introducing or reintroducing publicly funded community buildings for education on human reproduction and a distributor of contraceptives.

  4. Then, if the majority agrees, we can strip felons of reproduction rights with the outlined and protected by law ability to sue the state in assumption of prejudice based on protected class. Finally, punish people with excessive childbirthing habits, like more than five or six, perhaps with fines and risk of prison time as well as a three strike system for upgrading to felony.

Or at least that is usually how it works. Definitely cannot skip the order in this, though, the education step needs to come first or second and could probably solve this issue alone single-handedly. If we implemented this in reverse order then it would probably just end up in history books thirty years from now as "that time we almost lost entire demographics to racist eugenics" and that would just be awful.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago
[-] RatherBeMTB@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 months ago

Capitalism. You need money to feed kids. People are having less kids mainly because today having a kid is too expensive.

[-] deafboy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

People were popping out 10 kids under the feudal rule, living in a hut made out of mud. Today, we live better than the aristocracy did back then. What changed is the attitude. We no longer want to see half of our kids die of hunger, or a preventable disease. And not only that, we prefer them to have a better life than ourselves. People actively choosing whether to have children based on the circumstances have my fullest respect.

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