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I just don't understand why you're calling out only one party?
Because one party is demanding something the other party says it doesn't have.
Problem I think is why they don't have them now if they had them at some point.
Unless they never had them to begin with; having people and now no longer having them points to killing them which, surprise, hurts negotiation.
Who knows though, Israel might of taken them for innocent Palestinians and did it to themselves :(
Unless it wasn't Hamas who killed them.
The IDF didn't put a magical force field around the hostages as they bombed the shit out of Gaza.
The IDF has already admitted to "mistakenly" killing hostages that had been released- https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/16/israeli-hostages-mistakenly-killed-in-gaza-were-had-a-white-flag-official
And those were the ones they were caught killing or even were aware themselves that were killed. How many more were killed?
Yeah, I'm not ruling out Israel unknowingly killing their own (or even knowingly I guess) but I think regardless if an explanation (that's true) by either was possible, it'd be better.
THEY SHOULD HAVE, but they said they don't. Some 130 people are still missing. That means they killed hostages. Plain and simple. The request was to return first 40 hostages which should include all the women, elderly and others in a need of care, then fill whatever is left up to 40 with men. Then negotiations can start.
So, there are no hostages anymore. They either raped them to death or tortured them to death. And now Israel's retribution will get even worse.
Or Israel killed them. Why isn't that a possibility? Did a force field go up around them while Israel bombed all the places they claimed were Hamas locations?
That's bullshit excuse. If I hold you in front of oncoming bullets, I killed you, not whoever shot the bullets. If you jump in front of a car you killed yourself. Driver didn't kill you.
Except Hamas didn't hold them in front of bullets, Israel intentionally targeted places they were likely to be held because they were going after Hamas with no regard for casualties.
Let's not forget they shot their own people who had escaped and were waiving a white flag while trying to get back to Israeli forces. Claiming Israel has killed their own people being held hostage isn't bullshit, it's literally a matter of record. And that's not even the only instance you can find being reported, there's a report from March 1st saying another 7 hostages were killed.
What if the driver ran up on the curb to hit the guy next to you? That's absolutely the drivers fault.
Maybe...don't take hostages to begin with???
I got my bingo card. What's the right response?
I'm not justifying hamas' actions in the slightest. But let's not pretend that Israel isn't at fault for murdering the hostages we know about, or have decades long evidence of lack of care for Palestinian life. Those points alone are enough to destroy any notion that your above assertion is the most likely:
Funny how zionists only ever talk about the possibility of Hamas intentionally killing the hostages, and never a peep about the hostages that Israel murdered in their negligent attacks on hamas.
That's a Bingo!
Btw, that quote is not from me. You might have intended to respond to someone else.