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So if the drones have any programming to swerve they'd get through? I'd suspect programming an offensive missile to dodge is easier than programming a defensive missile to intersect. But then I'd expect them to exist already.
the patriot batteries that are the iron dome can't even hit 100% of the ballistic sugar rockets fired by Hamas and the US/Ukraine want us to believe they've intercepted hypersonics
Any modern missile with some kind of jinking is going to be a real challenge for Patriot missiles to intercept
Dunno, but I think so. I really don't know much about the Shahed's capabilities so idk if they're being guided by GPS, dead reckoning, remote control, GLONASS. idk if they can be programmed to do evasive stuff once they get to their target area.
I'd be surpsied if they didn't have some sort of GPS. But I think just doing random evasive maneuvers once their in range of defensives isnt practical or efficient because they'd be in range for a very long time. You'd have to put a sensor on the drone to detect when a missile is incoming and thats probably also cost prohibitive.
from what i can find the iron dome uses radar to detect incoming projectiles, but the interceptor missiles themselves use optical sensors to lock on. i don’t think swerving would be enough. maybe flares would be effective since it was mostly designed to counter simple unguided rockets, but i’m not sure.
Flares seem far too bulky for a missile or drone to carry when that could be more fuel or payload.
Interceptor missiles have to calculate where their target will be and vector towards that point in the future. Its also not chasing the missile like an AA missile chases a plane. Its trying to meet the missile head on, which is far more difficult. I suspect the patriots can sense and recalculate course changes quickly but idk how quickly it can actually maneuver intercept an incoming target if that target is waiting to the last minute to dodge.
good point about the weight, afaik modern control systems are pretty decent at ignoring flares anyway. it seems to me that a smaller interceptor rocket would be more maneuverable than the drones, though not sure about the latency between sensing and actuation.