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Iran has struck Israel.

previous preambleThe continuing fall of the remains of the British Empire is pretty entertaining from the outside: an archaic royal family that is seemingly being smote with disease by God itself for their past crimes; a navy that virtually no longer functions, ramming into foreign ports and under constant repair; and an economy that cannot seem to stop sputtering, fucked whether they're in the EU or outside it. Watching the impacts on people from the inside is a little more worrying, though.

A fifth of the population is in poverty, including nearly a third of all children. These figures have barely shifted since the Labour government in the early 2000s, aside from a decreasing poverty rate for pensioners. Actually, poverty hasn't substantially shifted since Margaret Thatcher. Before her, the poverty rate was around 14%, but her catastrophic policies caused a major increase, and poverty levels since then are still 50% higher than over 50 years ago, because neoliberal economic policy since then has not fundamentally changed. Parties and corporations have impoverished the usual vulnerable groups, such as large families, minority ethnic groups (including half of Pakistani and Bangladeshi households!) and disabled people. These differences are also regional, with the North more impoverished than the richer Southeast (but some of the poorest boroughs are in London, so it's a complex pattern).

With Corbyn's defeat in 2019 mere months before the pandemic began, the Labour Party shifted back towards the right, with left-wingers purged from the party if they did not kowtow to Keir Starmer. This leaves us with a situation where the only substantial difference between the two parties would be on social policy, but it goes without saying that economic policy is the overwhelming factor that determines if minorities can have a decent life. Worker-oriented movements since then have been largely not under the umbrella of major party leaderships, such as the Don't Pay movement in late 2022 that arose in the wake of dramatically rising energy prices where 3 million people vowed to not pay them (which did lead to results).

Most notably recently is the major upset in the constituency of Rochdale - the victory of George Galloway - who is the leader of the Workers Party of Britain, which describes itself as both socialist and socially conservative. This took place both in the context of aforementioned economic troubles, as well as anger over Israel's genocide of Gaza in the British population, especially in British Muslims. It remains to be seen how much of this is an isolated event, especially as Corbyn has, understandably, refused to collaborate with Galloway due to his socially conservative stances. The UK general election will be held at some point within the next 9 months or so, and might well be a shitshow depending on what happens domestically and geopolitically before then; parallels to the current American electoral shitshow with increasing anger over Biden are pretty apparent. The Conservatives are quite likely to lose given 14 years of uninspired rule if current polling is correct, but it truly is a race to the bottom.


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[-] eduds6@hexbear.net 60 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The talk on some specific amateur us-biased "analysis spaces" in the Internet is "iran did this to save face and hit nothing". Please explain to me then how are you able to record stuff flying above historical and key buildings and be having a success rate on intercepting things? Curiously and with no coincidence, the same who say this believe the Israeli army is amazing and the referential NATO army, that Russian an Ukrainian armies are weak, and that Iran has a weak army.

How to take it seriously? Anyone who is informed by analysis, including from military analysts, be them amateur or from some military who is not completely submissive to NATO bullshit propaganda talk and who knows how wars and military strategy and tactics work for more than 10 years, how missiles hit things, how air raids happen, and how propaganda in the Web and in TV works and live in a relatively non-natosphere Web, know that this has likely been controlled by a propaganda harm reduction effort inside Israel, the ue and the US to reduce the number of hits which really happened and the number of people killed, and to pave way for media.

Wikipedia or whatever other liberal and Anglocentric entity to fabricate the real story (or, historical revisionism in the present). For no coincidence, they did the exact same propaganda tactics in Syria, Ukraine and against Hamas. This trick ain't gonna work for everyone for the fourth time, it didn't even work for the second.

[-] InappropriateEmote@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This trick ain't gonna work for everyone for the fourth time, it didn't even work for the second.

I think the trick will work just fine, and that it has been working just fine. Maybe not for everyone, but it's not meant to work for everyone. Look at how well they sold their proxy war in Ukraine back when they still wanted to. You're right that "anyone who is informed by analysis" will see through it immediately, but they're not the ones the propaganda drive is meant to ~~convince~~ reassure. I think it's pretty clear that most people in the west, even including a high percentage of those with real power, are informed much more by ideology and the prevailing paradigm in their circles than any kind of analytical or even honest reckoning of what's really happening. Or am I misunderstanding you?

[-] eduds6@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You are right propaganda has power. And it has a huge power. We cannot ignore the objective aspects of how much these factors are significant behind a wall of misinformation and false data projected by the west. There are although, at least in my view (please give me other points if you disagree) a percentage of the population that is well versed but also a part of the people around the world who are seeing this nudely since they saw, by their clear eyes, Israel is a liar and Ukraine is even a bigger liar. These people are partially gonna be eye clogged by the propaganda and lose heart, but so many have saw, by incompetence of Israeli and Ukrainian armies in the field and their bourgeois leaders in their offices, that this is all a whole smoke cloud maintained to keep political stability at their homes and justify the criminal support of the US and of Europe to these nazi regimes. I highly hold doubts this part of the people will lose heart.

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