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‘Sleepy Don’: Trump sparks Twitter hilarity as he appears to fall asleep at trial
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Because we're running a bad candidate against a worse....
Like, why are so many people mad at the ones pointing out Biden is a bad candidate instead of Biden for staying in the race as a bad candidate that might not even be able to beat trump?
There's no logic to that
You can't just shout down everyone that mentions Biden's flaws.
But if the whole Dem voter base says Biden isn't acceptable and we need a better candidate, there's still 2 months to the Democratic convention.
Shit isn't too late to do the one thing that would most help prevent trump from becoming president:
Run a candidate popular with voters.
In general, yes, run a candidate that is popular with voters. You can't do that this year. No one who is unknown would have the time to get enough traction to beat Trump. No one who is well known is liked enough to motivate people to get to the polls.
I don't think people are saying don't criticize Biden or don't criticize the system that resulted in Biden being president the first time and a candidate the second time. By all means, criticize away. He could be worse, sure, but he could be so much better.
What I think people are saying is that when you are comparing Biden and Trump, it's important to point out that while both are not ideal, one is way worse. People who aren't paying attention to the level they should will be less motivated to show up to the polls if they just think "everybody sucks." Biden isn't great, but Trump is a criminal scumbag who wants to let others strip us of our rights so that he can play king.
This was said during the last election. Now it's... Biden again?
We have 6 months to go. In my opinion, the chances of having a different candidate who will beat Trump in that time is low. Six months ago or more, I would have said it was doable. Statistically, incumbents have a higher rate of reelection than new candidates. Who knows what's going to happen.
Kind of sums it up. No one was put forward. The election was not a surprise.
This is absolutely the reasonable take. Unfortunately, the vast majority of Biden people are trying to pretend like they love they idea of someone taking a sloppy shit on their salad just because they don't want napalm on their salad. You can order the diarrhea dressing without acting like it is a delicacy that should be praised for its brave choice of texture.
Absolute poppycock. There's maybe a dozen different Dems and Dem-aligned Independents who have enough name recognition and are significantly more popular than Biden.
It's the DNC leadership and their owner donors standing in the way because he serves their interests. Biden is NOT the least bad candidate possible by a long shot!
Hell, I bet even fucking BETO would stand a better chance of a comfortable win against the worst president in US history, that's how awful a candidate Biden is!
If our election systems were better, yes, that would be more likely to be successful, and it would certainly be preferred (at least by me). Ranked choice or approval would be awesome!
In no election system is gambling the very democracy of a country on a bad candidate who refuses to own up to and correct his mistakes the smart play.
In fact, it's EXTRA risky and stupid to insist on such a candidate in a binary system such as the US one.
If and when this becomes the last free presidential election, it won't be because the people was given a choice and chose poorly. It will be because Biden and the rest of the DNC leadership chose poorly and refused to listen to the warnings and eminently reasonable concerns of the people, effectively disenfranchising everyone who's neither a member of the fascist Trump cult or an automatically obedient DNC loyalist.
Yes. We can.
The DNC set the convention for two months from now, if that's not enough time to run a general campaign, then why is the primary scheduled to keep going on?
Why are so many states not able to vote in the primary until "it's too late"?
In many elections, that would be reasonable. The difference here is Trump. We have not had a president who so blatantly breaks the law with the level of support he has while his supporters either willfully ignore it or even support it.
So few thought he had a chance to be the Republican nominee in 2016, including Hillary's campaign. Then, he stomped all of the other Republicans. Still, people he had no chance of winning the general election, and he won. While it is clear he hates learning of any kind (as evidenced by appointing Betsy DeVos, his inability to pay attention to briefings, etc.), his campaign has had opportunities to learn what works and what doesn't. If the opposition is not unified on ONE candidate against Trump, Trump will win. The consequences of that are too dire, and this we gotta eat the white bread with Kraft singles sandwich. It's better than the diarrhea sandwich people keep pointing to.
This is the third election in a row where it's trump tho...
And if he loses, he's likely running again. If he wins, 2028 is going to be someone else just as bad if not worse.
We can't run a country "paycheck to paycheck", we have to plan further ahead than "next election".
Because we keep running unpopular candidates against him...
So let's stop doing that? Biden barely beat trump by the skin of his teeth and Biden is substantiallynless popular than he was four years ago with his own voter base. And that cost over a Billion dollars to beat trump in 2020
There's no logical reason not to run a candidate that voters actually like
For the record, I am not downvoting you. Civil discussion is healthy and we need to be having these discussions.
Nearly everyone on both sides can't get beyond the simple instruction of "I have to hate one with all my might, and I have to love one with all my might" anything more complex than this just melts their brains. Anyone who points out this obvious fact is seen as an absolute trader equally by both sides.
Nuance has taken a distant 2nd place to black-and-white thinking. It used to be that the blue team was less fanatic than the red team, they've become indistinguishable in this regard, and we are getting to the point where nearly everyone doesn't even realise that it wasn't always this way. It is just that the red team got converted to mindlessness a few years before the blue team did.
Can you point to a single example of this sentiment? I keep hearing this claim and have never seen or heard this argument from literally anyone advocating on Biden's behalf. I don't understand why you guys think we have this unbending loyalty to Biden like Trump voters do. There's zero evidence of that.
I feel like it's in nearly every thread on here when Trump or Biden gets mentioned. I guess it's just easier to see when you're not head-over-heels for one of them.
Other than this one that we are currently in, just off the top of my head:
https://lemmy.world/comment/9346681
I'm sure that if you keep an eye out for it, you'll start to see it. That is, if you can quiet the voice in your head that keeps telling you how awful it is if you question Biden's brilliance. Seriously, it's not a religion, it's OK if you doubt a little bit every now and then.
Again, no one is head over heels for Biden. I have not seen a single serious comment here that says you can't or shouldn't criticize Biden. When has someone told you that you can't criticize him? You keep making this claim that Biden has some kind of cult following like we see with Trump but provide absolutely no evidence to back it up. Seems like you're projecting or trying to Both Sides everything. That's all.