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What should I do about carnist leftists? (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by VeganicTankie@lemmygrad.ml to c/vegan@hexbear.net
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A lot of leftists are marxist-leninist, anti-sexist, LGBT+ and anti-racist. BUT, they'll tell you the dumbest right-wing arguments to justify eating animals. I get that people aren't ideal, but when you are the urban middle class of the West, there's no excuse to not be vegan. Absolutely, no, excuse, to, murder, animals. Historical materialism lets me ok people from poor/oppressed backgrounds being carnist. I would never denounce a carnist in Gaza, but the Westerners have no any excuses to abuse animals.

I get that some people just have no will, I know people can be addicted. But at least DON'T BE A JERK to vegans. Some "leftists" post propaganda about veganism like YT videos that are literally funded by oil corporations. Some "leftists" are so toxic I'd rather have a conservative as my roommate than them.

The "leftists" lie all the time. Meat, dairy, eggs and honey are luxury products available mosty to those in the imperial core. The poor countries like India, Nigeria, Uganda and North Korea eat diets closest to veganism BECAUSE plant foods are the cheapest foods, not carnist subsidized McFood.

Dealing with leftists, especially online, is draining to me. How can I be productive as a leftist and not go insane? How can I cooperate with carnists to achieve the revolution? I see no easy solution here

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[-] VeganicTankie@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 7 months ago

I'm vegan but not because of the environment. It's because animals shouldn't be murdered and exploited

[-] axont@hexbear.net 27 points 7 months ago

I'd make the case that both can be true. My personal veganism is intrinsically tied to both environmentalism and the ethical treatment of animals. We can't treat animals ethically if we don't have a stable environment.

[-] GayBot@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

if you are against breeding animals you are against environmentalism

but everything else looks fine its just that point im stuck on

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