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What should I do about carnist leftists? (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by VeganicTankie@lemmygrad.ml to c/vegan@hexbear.net
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A lot of leftists are marxist-leninist, anti-sexist, LGBT+ and anti-racist. BUT, they'll tell you the dumbest right-wing arguments to justify eating animals. I get that people aren't ideal, but when you are the urban middle class of the West, there's no excuse to not be vegan. Absolutely, no, excuse, to, murder, animals. Historical materialism lets me ok people from poor/oppressed backgrounds being carnist. I would never denounce a carnist in Gaza, but the Westerners have no any excuses to abuse animals.

I get that some people just have no will, I know people can be addicted. But at least DON'T BE A JERK to vegans. Some "leftists" post propaganda about veganism like YT videos that are literally funded by oil corporations. Some "leftists" are so toxic I'd rather have a conservative as my roommate than them.

The "leftists" lie all the time. Meat, dairy, eggs and honey are luxury products available mosty to those in the imperial core. The poor countries like India, Nigeria, Uganda and North Korea eat diets closest to veganism BECAUSE plant foods are the cheapest foods, not carnist subsidized McFood.

Dealing with leftists, especially online, is draining to me. How can I be productive as a leftist and not go insane? How can I cooperate with carnists to achieve the revolution? I see no easy solution here

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[-] InappropriateEmote@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago

Edit: thank you mods for cleaning things up

Yeah, looks like I missed this one before the mods (who were clearly on point, thank you) removed the comments of the carnist losers and trolls. I will come right out and say it: if you're a carnist in the core, you're a shitty communist. In a similar way that one would be a shitty communist if they aren't anti-imperialist. Or if they think patriarchy is just fine and not worth fighting. You have some self crit you need to do and you're either not aware enough, brave enough, principled enough, or empathetic enough (and stfu if you're about to say empathy is idealism, you're just a vulgar pseudo-materialist) to be able to do that essential self crit.

For the record, I wouldn't lump someone in as a carnist per se if they're doing their best to reduce the amount of animal abuse they are responsible for. That's an ongoing process (which is not to say an excuse to stop trying to continue to do better either). I'm mostly in agreement with Angel, who said it really well elsewhere in the thread. But if you're coming in here whining about this completely valid post, then fuck right off. You're a shitty communist.

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