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Can someone explain the "into DnD but also a Zionist" archetype? Why do I keep seeing geeks consuming very-much-not-fascism media, while siding with fascism irl?
There must be a pipeline, it's like the reverse effect of WH40k fandom
Fantasy is heavily pro monarchy. In basically every fantasy setting the king/prince/princess is morally good and want the best for their kingdom and its subjects and outsiders that try to change the status quo are the morally kicking dogs bad people. From there, is easy to slide into fascism.
Is it wrong to think that fantasy doesn't necessarily have to include kings and queens in it? Like I think Pikmin is fantasy, there isn't much royalty it.
not necessarily wrong but for normies 'fantasy' = LOTR, game of thrones, DnD, world of warcraft, league of legends type stuff. on a spectrum from 'misunderstood '''realistic''' whitewashed history but with magic for some reason' to 'how does this deviantart poster even manage to draw so many belt buckles on their overly detailed glowing eyes steampunk OC'
Pikmin is technically sci-fi to normies because it has space ships in it
No, you're not wrong "Fantasy" is being used differently between the two of you.
Driving Crooner is using "Fantasy" to mean western medieval fantasy in the tradition of Tolkein.
In its broadest form fantasy of course has no particular relationship with monarchy. Diso Elysium is also in a fantasy world but certainly not monarchist.
Not sure if included on "western" but Japanese fantasy (anime and in special video games) draw a lot of elements from Tolkien fantasy settings too.
I agree that it doesn't have to be, in part because I'm writing a fantasy story that takes place in a realm that practices "socialism with holy roman empire characteristics"
(Pls keep trans people out of my hobby, because that reminds me of real old stuff) - character portrayed in this
They're tolkien DnD bros. Tolkien's racialising and pro-monarchy fantasy is where their brainworms come from.
Also japanese anime is absolutely riddled with pro-monarchy fantasy.
Their beliefs are all fantasy so they feel right at home in a made up world they get to write the rules for?
Because they don't care. They do a good job at separating the art from the artist, and at times conflating the art with their own views. It's why a lot of bronies are weirdos and fash adjacent. Fascists think when people complaining about their lack of media literacy think every piece of media is anti-capitalism, but that's not true at all. Sometimes a piece of media is simply making fun of these losers with no deeper message and they still refuse to grasp it because they're unable to comprehend that conservatism doesn't create. At least nothing that's widely consumed nowadays.
Because they don't actually have any consistent belief. They believe that a state where everyone looks the same is needed and the ends justify the means.